If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

That supposes that there will be a meaningful opposition party in 4 years to vote for, which is made even less likely by the boundary changes, and that the damage isn't already done by then.

I mean, I agree with you in theory, but in practise the Tories have all the cards stacked in their favour right now.

Do you not approve of the boundary changes that will mean that the electorate in each constituency will be approx equal?

The Tories may have the cards stacked in their favour but only because for the dysfunctional nature of the labour party. Nothing to stop voters from voting for independents or LibDems, UKIP or a new party.

ruggedtoast

kabayiri wrote: »

There you go Toastie my mucker. Proof if any were needed that you and your London-centric socialites have lost these voters. Perhaps the EU was just the wrong villain at the wrong time. I frequently said having Cameron heading up Remain was a really bad move : Remain = London = Establishment. A case of "sticking it to the man".

You don't even need to stick to Wales. Try visiting Rotherham or Doncaster or Sheffield or a bunch of other places. You get similar resentment.

Future UKIP with a charismatic Trump style leader would mop up these votes like chunky bread n butter mops up the remnants of last night's cabbage stew.

You mean - poor people stricken by division and social alienation can generally be relied up on to vote for racists pushing an agenda of division and alienation?

History has shown that the British generally don't take to this, though you and your UKIP cronies' excitement that this may change is evident.

TrickyTree83

wotsthat wrote: »

I feel the same about having an unelected second chamber and unelected Head of State. When do I get my referendum?

An no solace in the knowledge that the executive in our land is electable and totally capable of removing either of those institutions should they/the electorate wish it?

Lets not try to muddy the waters, it is what it is in the EU, and the UK outside of the EU doesn't have that problem.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You mean - poor people stricken by division and social alienation can generally be relied up on to vote for racists pushing an agenda of division and alienation?

History has shown that the British generally don't take to this, though you and your UKIP cronies' excitement that this may change is evident.

well, for a change, toxic tostie we can agree,
the voting over the last few years, has clearly shown that the vast majority of the UK voters aren't racist or aren't in favour of division or alienation and have respect for different views and don't show hatred, malice or intolerance towards their fellow citizens.

kabayiri

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You mean - poor people stricken by division and social alienation can generally be relied up on to vote for racists pushing an agenda of division and alienation?
...

Nice whinge and all, but what do *you* think should happen to win these people back?

Corbyn bribes using borrowed money perhaps?

These people are clearly unhappy with the status quo. It's just a shame they get tagged as voting for racists. You're not exactly charming them back are you. :rotfl:

Rinoa

Tim Farron in the Guardian:

"Nine out of 10 voters want Britain in the Single Market, yet May is ripping us out"

Sky News Poll:

kabayiri

Tim Farron is a traditional politician; one who likes to reinterpret figures to meet his own specific viewpoint.

Luckily, nobody has been listening to the LibDems for a while.

mayonnaise

Our beloved foreign secretary making a contribution to get negotiations with our European partners off to a good start.

Speaking in India, Mr Johnson said: “If Mr Hollande wants to administer punishment beatings to anybody who seeks to escape [the EU], in the manner of some world war two movie, I don’t think that is the way forward, and it’s not in the interests of our friends and partners.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-french-president-francois-hollande-nazi-brexit-eu-a7532981.html

Conrad

Once people understand we will have free access to the SM, they will all get behind Brexit.


Unlike Canada with it's virtual free trade deal, we are already fully aligned and enjoying existing free trade between EU and ourselves. Thus 2 years is ample time for the trade element mainframe deal.


Even under WTO terms, we will still thrive and soon adapt.

Conrad

Trust the wets to think we cant go in strong and tell it how it is.


If only drippy Corbyn and Farron were at the deal making table making all sorts of wet n weak concessions and obsequious mutterings into the ears at Brussels, we'd get a far better deal, lol