If we vote for Brexit what happens

Matt_L

leveller2911 wrote: »

I don't know how you can function when getting up at 5am this morning when you only stopped posting at 2am this morning (post #15453)

No wonder you're scratchy today , late to bed..

I think he's eating to many pork pies

Filo25

Interesting poll from Yougov shown below, it does show the importance politically of getting some kind of trade deal from the EU for the government, it also shows (unsurprisingly) that a lot of the public have no idea as to what Labour stands for with regards to the EU..

Mortgagefreeman

Matt_L wrote: »

I think he's eating to many pork pies

Anybody who posts on an open Forum using their real name is either naive,stupid or both. Google is your friend.

Moby

Of course leaving the Single Market will make it harder for UK-based producers to sell to the EU. This will not lead to a disaster – the market will adjust. But the adjustment will involve UK wages and salaries falling relative to those in alternative locations in the EU in order to restore competitiveness in the face of the worsening of market access. The idea that the UK can replace this with free trade agreements is puerile nonsense. First, the EU already has free trade agreements with over 50 nations and the UK will have to reproduce these to simply maintain current access. Second, for the big countries like the US, Japan and China that the EU does not have deals with, it will take the UK years to reach agreements.

Theresa Mayhems speech was heavy on rhetoric and lacking in credibility. She said that since the UK economic data was better than expected for the last six months, she was persuaded she was wrong about the economic costs of Brexit being large. ..... ...... – I ran off the cliff, but so far I haven’t hit anything and the view is nice, so the future will continue to be nice.:rotfl: Splat. It is nonsense to claim that restricting immigration or pushing out foreign workers will raise UK real incomes. No matter how many times it is said, it is still rubbish. The UK pensions, health care, retail, and agriculture all will be hurt if the UK cuts back on foreign workers. Unskilled UK citizens who live in regions without demand will not gain a thing and yet those are the bozos who have put us in this mess! I wonder how many of them will be contributing to the 60 billion euro exit cheque the EU will want before they start negotiating a new deal.

Moby

:rotfl:

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'm really looking forward to those disenfranchised leave voters in Rotherham, Doncaster and Ebbw Vale making a roaring success of Global Britain now they're free of the shackles of the EU.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Im no middle class snowflake. I come from this type of area and agree with the view that the vote was a middle finger to the English establishment, (I for one recognise things are different in Scotland). Problem is however the Brexiteers of Sunderland and Ebbw Vale, etc need to think will the English establishment see us through this when times get tough..........because it ain't started yet and it could end the Union of course.

Moby

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You mean those small towns where there is no work, like, Ebbw Vale, which has received hundreds and hundreds of millions of euros in grants and funding from the EU?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/25/view-wales-town-showered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale

Well now they have voted out of that horrible pipeline of subservience and exploitation, I am sure that the Tory Party that destroyed their economy in the first place will shower them in even more cash. Because, the whole country will just have so much of it when we are stuck outside of Europe.

Again, so many people who voted for Brexit have done nothing other than screw themselves over. Although small working class communities outside the South East really don't know what a good screwing over is until they've had one from the Tories. You'd think they'd remember the last time...

Bang on the money mate. Looks like they'll have to learn the hard way. Bargain basement Britain fighting for cheap trade deals is hardly going to be a good environment for their future.........but these places can comfort themselves with at least having taken back control.......and given it to Boris, Mayhem and Farages progeny, Nutter:rotfl:

Conrad

If a good deal isn't on the table in 2019, we walk and go to WTO, I am perfectly happy either way, trade will continue and the most likely outcome is it will be on tariff free terms as is now.

We are the EUs biggest market, our rules are already fully aligned and the free trade is real and present, not just some future aim, so two years is ample negotiating time

wotsthat

I fully read Mrs. May's speech last night.

It struck me that of the 12 priorities a number of things she wants we already have and, for others, they seem to be non-Brexit related and already in the gift of government.

Where she was most vague was with regard to immigration.

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

Bang on the money mate. Looks like they'll have to learn the hard way. Bargain basement Britain fighting for cheap trade deals is hardly going to be a good environment for their future.........but these places can comfort themselves with at least having taken back control.......and given it to Boris, Mayhem and Farages progeny, Nutter:rotfl:

what would constitute a 'cheap trade deal'? or a 'bargain basement Britain?'

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

I fully read Mrs. May's speech last night.

It struck me that of the 12 priorities a number of things she wants we already have and, for others, they seem to be non-Brexit related and already in the gift of government.

Where she was most vague was with regard to immigration.

Ah.
Try this:
"It struck me that of the 12 priorities a number of things she wants we already have" whilst we are members of the EU.

If you're seriously expecting anything more than vague in many areas regarding Brexit you should perhaps try asking those more-senior within the EU.
Since, we are told, anything firm must be agreed by them as well as by us.
And there will not even be talks to reach agreement until Article 50 is invoked.
So not much help for those like you that would like to know more, then.

In short no one knows, nor can they say with certainty anything regarding a Brexit deal.

To put it simply: Article 50 -> discussion duration of two years -> agreement or just out.