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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »


    Maybe. In the year to April 2016 there were a record number of investments in the UK despite us being in the EU. Global firms were already investing here.





    And they still will, in a world of uncertainty where trust is in short supply.


    But we wont be paying a daily £28 million nor giving up sovereignty.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    QUESTION;


    Remainers, and yesterday an Italian Minister (Boris / Prosecco) say the EU will hamper it's trade with UK, but will make up the loss by 'simply' selling more to others.


    Why this morning do I keep hearing an Audi advert then? Surely a waste of time as they know trade hampering measures are on the way. They need to be throwing this resource at these other markets.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    News today;


    UK retail sales up highest amount in a decade


    Lowest unemployment rate since 2005
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    That is some serious wriggling!

    I have not "decided Brexit is a success" - look at my posts?
    I clearly (and frequently) say that there may well be difficulties ahead.
    BUT . ...... . . . given the evidence so far all is ceratinly NOT the doom and gloom that some suggest, is it?
    More so if you compare the UK to the rest of the EU.

    It's not wriggling in the slightest. Reduced investment in the months following the referendum will have had little impact on the latest growth figures. Suggesting, albeit ironically, that we might've otherwise been the fastest growing economy in the world as well as vs the G7 is evidence you didn't understand this point.

    I'm almost (not quite) past arguments about the biggest liar competition. I didn't expect unemployment to rise by 500,000 overnight, I didn't expect WW3 to start and neither did I expect the NHS to receive an extra £350m/ day.

    I take no delight in the fact that our biggest customer hasn't enjoyed the same growth as the UK and engaging in schadenfreude because Europe as well as the UK is drifting right is an entirely inappropriate response.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    Lowest unemployment rate since 2005
    And I thought them immigrants were taking our jobs. Oh well.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • wotsthat wrote: »
    It's not wriggling in the slightest. Reduced investment in the months following the referendum will have had little impact on the latest growth figures. Suggesting, albeit ironically, that we might've otherwise been the fastest growing economy in the world as well as vs the G7 is evidence you didn't understand this point.

    I'm almost (not quite) past arguments about the biggest liar competition. I didn't expect unemployment to rise by 500,000 overnight, I didn't expect WW3 to start and neither did I expect the NHS to receive an extra £350m/ day.

    I take no delight in the fact that our biggest customer hasn't enjoyed the same growth as the UK and engaging in schadenfreude because Europe as well as the UK is drifting right is an entirely inappropriate response.

    Yet you take delight in a reported piece of research based upon estimates?
    we estimate the total value of abandoned and delayed investments since Brexit
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-causes-british-companies-scrap-investment-plans-worth-655bn-a7416091.html

    From a survey of 1,015 "business leaders" according to your own quote above.

    Again, can we not wait for hard data; actual figures.
    If the data does eventually show those estimates (*estimate = another word for guess, btw) to be correct THEN you may gloat.
    Not before though, eh?
    It smacks of desperation.


    * estimate: roughly calculate or judge the value, number, quantity, or extent of.
  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,983 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Why this morning do I keep hearing an Audi advert then? Surely a waste of time as they know trade hampering measures are on the way. They need to be throwing this resource at these other markets.

    A shot in the dark here but perhaps Audi want to sell cars. Once we leave the EU (We have yet to leave, by the way) my guess is that they will still want to sell cars. It mightn't be as easy or profitable but they won't want to abandon the UK once we leave.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker

    Why is that funny? He's pointing out that the EU will lose access to a small market and we'll lose access to a huge one.[/QUOTE]

    because all he could think off was'' fish and chips'' and the BBC played on with the joke as they said '' there was no figures on how much fish and chips we export''.
    Anyway the other 17 countries will suffer more than us, as he must of forgot, we import more than we export.
    :):)
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,994 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Conrad wrote: »
    Why this morning do I keep hearing an Audi advert then? Surely a waste of time as they know trade hampering measures are on the way. They need to be throwing this resource at these other markets.

    Do you understand the difference between hampering and ceasing trade?

    No matter what Tariffs or restrictions are applied, Audi will sell cars here, so Audi will advertise. Audi will not go under.

    They may cost much more, but to people paying monthly it won't be noticeable.
  • Tromking
    Tromking Posts: 2,691 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    And I thought them immigrants were taking our jobs. Oh well.

    I think I heard on the radio this morning that the vast majority of the new jobs created were filled by EU citizens anxious to move to the UK before Brexit is enacted.
    Clearly Remainiac tales of wanton racism and xenophobia have'nt put people off from moving here while the window is still open.
    Is there any Remainiac narrative that hasn't been trashed now?
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
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