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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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Why do you lot never demand such a plan from your side, Brussels?
The EU has no need to give any plans.
Britain buys just 7% of EU exports.
The EU buys a whopping 45% of our exports.
It's very obvious who holds all the cards here.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Mortgagefreeman wrote: »Why am I not surprised Mayo, Stevie and HAMISH haven't been flooding these Forums telling us how great it is that the Pounds been recovering ground these last few days? Perhaps they're only interested when it's all doom and gloom. :rotfl:
Not sure what point you are trying to make, the pound rejoices every time that Brexit has a setback e.g. High court judgement?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »The vote was to stay in the EU OR to leave the EU.
No list of conditions appeared on my ballot paper.
No mention was made regarding "the government's basic approach" at the time of the referendum.
As a consequence this approach must be decided.
And when Article50 is implemented the chances are that most of these items contained in the "basic approach" will be roundly ignored by those in power within the EU, no matter which direction is chosen.
Think of it as being like a child's Christmas list if you will?
Full of all the things a child really, REALLY wants Santa to bring for Christmas.
When the reality what the child will receive depends upon many factors - from what the parents and family are inclined to purchase and wrap to what finances or even space limitations will allow.
So you're asking for the unanswerable.
Since no matter what answer could be given, the outcome will certainly bear no resemblance to said answer.
Ahem...since sovereignty under the slogan ' taking back control' was used time and time again by the Brexiteers I think it logical to assume that debate in parliament would be regarded as central to the Govmt approach. Your metaphor only works on the basis that Brexiteers are like children, they believe and trust in their Govmt never to lie to them and I dont think such a child can expect anything other than an orange in a stocking:rotfl:0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »The EU has no need to give any plans.
Britain buys just 7% of EU exports.
The EU buys a whopping 45% of our exports.
It's very obvious who holds all the cards here.
Indeed it is. If the EU impose tariffs on UK imports then the UK hold all the cards.0 -
Remainers don't even know if for example France will remain in, and yet still they have this almost crazed need to remain in the EU mess, so yesterday
No one can predict the future, especially with the prospect of a loon in the White House and the growth of rampant nationalism due to the failure of neo liberal trickle down capitalism.......incidentally probably the capitalism you've promoted all your life on here.......that turned out well!..:rotfl:. Its how you respond that matters and whose side you are on. Working with other democracies, on your doorstep, where your markets are strengthens your security. Our relationship with France, Germany, Italy, Spain etc is central to that; the USA views us as a bridge for them to Europe because of common history. Our role in the world is therefore pretty clear. The self destructive obsession we have to be independent of the EU and its institutions weakens us. We are giving all this up for a more uncertain future during a time of much political uncertainty, when protectionism will grow. What's the plan Theresa? and no..... Nigels love in with the groper is not the shaft of light you are looking for as a way out of this mess!0 -
No one can predict the future, especially with the prospect of a loon in the White House and the growth of rampant nationalism due to the failure of neo liberal trickle down capitalism.......incidentally probably the capitalism you've promoted all your life on here.......that turned out well!..:rotfl:. Its how you respond that matters and whose side you are on. Working with other democracies, on your doorstep, where your markets are strengthens your security. Our relationship with France, Germany, Italy, Spain etc is central to that; the USA views us as a bridge for them to Europe because of common history. Our role in the world is therefore pretty clear. The self destructive obsession we have to be independent of the EU and its institutions weakens us. We are giving all this up for a more uncertain future during a time of much political uncertainty, when protectionism will grow. What's the plan Theresa? and no..... Nigels love in with the groper is not the shaft of light you are looking for as a way out of this mess!
The EU IS A PROTECTIONIST BLOC - do you not understand that? The EU is not about free trade. It has massive barriers to trade with the rest of the world. So why wouldn't the USA want to become protectionist too?
Yet again you are using double standards. The USA must be all about free trade but the EU can be as protectionist as it likes in your book. Go Figure!
As for the EU - it only has itself to blame for where it is. A bunch of elites refusing to listen to the great unwashed.
Democracy is doing its job. The people are chucking rocks at the politicians and not at each other. Amen to that.0 -
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Re this mornings hysterical headlines about Trump deporting 3 million Mexicans - this is the same amount Obama has deported. Obama has deported more people than any other president. You won't read that in Remoaners newspapers however.0
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setmefree2 wrote: »It was about "people" taking back control not politicians.
Yes it supposedly was. No one explained quite how that would work though. Are we to have dozens of referendums every year so that the people have a say in everything or will it be exactly the same as before whereby our elected MPs act on our behalf?
I'm going out on a limb here and say that it'll be the latter.0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »It was about "people" taking back control not politicians.
The people are sovereign through parliament in our system. The EU is protectionist to those countries outside it yes! But we were in it and from what I recall you were a remainer? Im saying by leaving we are weakening ourselves in an increasingly protectionist world.0
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