If we vote for Brexit what happens

setmefree2

PaulW1965 wrote: »

Speaking about yourself? When you find yourself on the side of the elites against the working classes you are probably on the wrong side brother.

Indeed. You need to go where the people are - not where you would like them to be.

wotsthat

setmefree2 wrote: »

Indeed. You need to go where the people are - not where you would like them to be.

Like sheep you mean?

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

You really think it's impossible for the government to give us a clue about what they'd like to achieve from future negotiations?

They have. Why do you not understand this?

Would you really be content to know nothing about what Brexit means until the finished deal is presented to parliament in March 2019 or so?

You must really like surprises.

That proposal is not and never has been on the cards. Parliament will be involved in the discussion process while negotiations are ongoing.

Why do you not understand this either?

wotsthat

mrginge wrote: »

They have. Why do you not understand this?

Let's just say that 5 months on from the referendum I'm rather disappointed at the level of detail. Others are clearly less bothered about the level of transparency.

mrginge wrote: »

That proposal is not and never has been on the cards. Parliament will be involved in the discussion process while negotiations are ongoing.

Why do you not understand this either?

I suspect we'll still be doing our fungi impression (kept in the dark and covered in !!!!) in another 12 - 18 months.

Thrugelmir

wotsthat wrote: »

I want to know what the government's basic approach will be.

To maintain a cordial relationship with the member states of the EU after the UK's exit.

If Latvia objects to FOM not being included as a compromise for agreeing to a special trade deal. Then there's little to negotiate. As trade is neither here nor there to them. The ability of their populace to work in the UK and remit money home bears far more importance. The variables are endless when you permute 27 different points of view. .

wotsthat

Just one third of British voters would give their unconditional support to a Brexit agreement, according to a new poll.

The ICM survey, reported in the Guardian, lends weight to growing public pressure for the Government to share its Brexit plan before the formal process of leaving Europe begins.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-one-third-voters-support-deal-unconditionally-a7414931.html

wotsthat

Ed Miliband has rejected calls for another referendum on Britain's EU membership.
The former Labour leader told ITV's Peston on Sunday June's Leave vote must be respected and there was "no question" of the UK staying put.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37968121

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

You really think it's impossible for the government to give us a clue about what they'd like to achieve from future negotiations?

Would you really be content to know nothing about what Brexit means until the finished deal is presented to parliament in March 2019 or so?

You must really like surprises.

Two excellent responses already, from mrginge and Thrugelmir.

Just to add re: the highlighted above that I would rather find myself outwith the EU than find more surprises that the EU has in store for it's members.
Which you choose to ignore, cementing your position as a narrowminded and fearful remainer.

BTW, posting links to surveys such as the ICM survey posted originally in the Guardian are really not going to carry much weight with those seeking facts.
We all know from recent events how accurate - or rather, inaccurate - even large, multiple polls can be, don't we?
Which says enough, really.
And smacks of desperation on the part of those who - like yourself, it would appear - are determined to remain members of the EU at any cost..

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

Let's just say that 5 months on from the referendum I'm rather disappointed at the level of detail. Others are clearly less bothered about the level of transparency.

And that is the point you are missing.

You're disappointed.
Others are not.

So the govt tell you a bit more and you're now happy.
Others are still not.

So the govt tell a bit more and a few more are happy.
Others are still not.

And on and on and on until everybody has to be told everything and the speedy process that you seem to be demanding from this 'inept' govt has disappeared up in smoke thanks to all those continual delays and demands from people who have no interest in anything other than causing delays and adding demands.

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-one-third-voters-support-deal-unconditionally-a7414931.html

Or in other words, half the people who voted remain are now not opposed to Brexit.