If we vote for Brexit what happens

ruggedtoast

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Marmites increased by 10p?!



That's gonna wipe about 5 pence of my years income.

Time for a new referendum, I want back in.

Good god Graham. I had forgotten you were a Kipper.

Ballard

Conrad wrote: »

So you didn't view leaving the EU as us taking back control of our decisions on such things as immigration policy?

Potentially it does but at the moment we don't know what will be negotiated in trade agreements. You and many others do not expect FoM but nobody knows how it'll end up. It may well be that our borders become much stricter but there was nothing on the ballot paper demanding that and no leave voter has any right to complain if not.

Similarly, we may find that we end up continuing to fund the EU and abide by at least some of their laws in return for the trade agreement. Note that I'm specifically using the word 'may'. I'm certainly not saying that any of this will come to pass but when we leave the EU the government will have delivered what was requested in the referendum.

As I've said before, none of us outside the government have any more say in the running of our country because of the referendum. Our elected members of parliament and civil servants will make all of the choices on our behalf.

setmefree2

Ballard wrote: »

Similarly, this 'take our country back' mantra doesn't mean that you or I (unless you're an MP) have any more say whatsoever in how our country will be run in future.

Of course it does. It's happened already. For example, look at all those Labour Remain MPs sweating because their constituents voted to Leave. They know that if they vote not to trigger Article 50 they are f***** - that is democracy in action. That is how democracy is supposed to work. MPs are supposed to implement the will of the people and get voted out if they don't. As a member of the audience said to Ken Clark on QT - " you work for us - if you don't like it Get Lost".

The EU allows politicians, bureaucrats and multi-nationals to by-pass the will of the people.

By the way, you can say that the referendum wasn't about immigration but we all know that it was. If politicians ignore this, people will keep voting until they get what they want, so this will never end. Politicians need to get this right. Deliver what people want and then we can all move on.

Ballard

setmefree2 wrote: »

Of course it does. It's happened already. For example, look at all those Labour Remain MPs sweating because their constituents voted to Leave. They know that if they vote not to trigger Article 50 they are f***** - that is democracy in action. That is how democracy is supposed to work. MPs are supposed to implement the will of the people and get voted out if they don't. As a member of the audience said to Ken Clark on QT - " you work for us - if you don't like it Get Lost".

The EU allows politicians, bureaucrats and multi-nationals to by-pass the will of the people.

By the way, you can say that the referendum wasn't about immigration but we all know that, in a large part, it was. If politicians ignore this people will keep voting until they get what they want, so this will never end. Politicians need to get this right. Deliver what people want and then we can all move on.

We already had the right to vote our MP out at the next general election. Nothing has changed.

setmefree2

Ballard wrote: »

We already had the right to vote our MP out at the next general election. Nothing has changed.

We didn't/don't have the ability to vote out non-elected EU commissioners making decisions on our behalf who are unaccountable to anyone.

setmefree2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Maybe when Brexit voters start to discover they can no longer afford things after the vote that they could afford before the vote it will finally begin to sink in that leaving the EU isn't all some jolly jape to upset the French.

Or maybe they will be grateful that there is now a more competitive environment for our exporters and home grown producers which creates jobs here in the UK. Maybe they will grateful that Nissan can create lots of jobs for northerners because our currency now gives us a competitive advantage....

Back in 2007 when the GBP was trading at 2 USD were you cheering because you could get a cheap PC or were you feeling sad for UK exporters who were going out of business because they were uncompetitive? (My guess is you didn't even know the exchange rate of the pound to the dollar tbh).

Ballard

setmefree2 wrote: »

We didn't/don't have the ability to vote out non-elected EU commissioners making decisions on our behalf who are unaccountable to anyone.

We don't have the ability to vote out UK civil servants either. MPs don't actually write the laws of the country. They vote on them.

setmefree2

prosaver wrote: »

Rice is from china ..lol what about tea ...duurr:p:p

Tea grown in Cornwall.

setmefree2

Yamumuk wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37801847

More real and tangible price rises that mean Brexit has directly caused less money in your pocket.

But do people actually care....I'm not sure people are that shallow...

setmefree2

Yamumuk wrote: »

Heinz baked Beans being one, or are they American ?.

Made in the UK. Often the value brands aren't.