If we vote for Brexit what happens

tara747

setmefree2 wrote: »

It's not an option - people voted to control immigration - which means we have to leave the single market.

Gosh, I must have been handed a different ballot paper...

ruggedtoast

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37799235

Apple isn't the first - and won't be the last.

People will pay for collectively voting Brexit - hundreds of pounds more per computer in this case.

Maybe when Brexit voters start to discover they can no longer afford things after the vote that they could afford before the vote it will finally begin to sink in that leaving the EU isn't all some jolly jape to upset the French.

CLAPTON

tara747 wrote: »

Gosh, I must have been handed a different ballot paper...

what did you vote for then?

mrginge

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I've no problem with FoM and I've no problem with payments.

You are in fact incorrect with regards to the ability to negotiate trade deals on our own with 3rd party countries as a member of EFTA.


http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2016/580918/EPRS_BRI(2016)580918_EN.pdf

That's twice today I've had people tell me how EEA/EFTA works and they've been wrong.

Has no one read about it at all?

So you believe we should join a free trade organisation and dictate to the other members when we feel like it?
It we want to do a deal with China do we tell Iceland to get on board or get lost and go it alone?
Doesn't seem very fair.
Doesn't seem like there's any benefit to the current members.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

leveller2911 wrote: »

I'm pretty certain that many remainers only voted so after being frightened half to death with the constant lies being peddled from the remain camp where we would experience just about every catastophe known to man if we voted to leave.

(Happy to admit the Brexit camp also peddled lies and half truths)

The fact is we can spin your argument 180 degrees..........

I also think the establishment got what they deserved and I believe they now understand that they can't take the public for granted especially with the advent of social media,smart phones etc but most people didn't vote Brexit to give the establishment a kicking.
People en masse voted with a view to the long term and with nothing coming from the EU on what its long term plan was going to be people decided to leave..

It really was that simple for most people. I'd be happy to hear you opinion on what the long term plan for the EU should be because even the EU don't have a clue.

The only thing I would add is the distrust which many have in the EU.
Which became more and more apparent throughout the campaign; from Cameron attempting to sell the public obviously farcical "reforms" to the threats of a variety of EU beurocrats - for threats they most certainly were.

Continual lies about migration; the economy/banks; new EU members and so on did nothing to ease any of that mistrust in the EU - and it has certainly not got perceptibly better SINCE the referendum either.
Putting it simply, we hate bullies and the EU are certainly trying to bully the UK; a major factor in the Brexit decision.

Ballard

setmefree2 wrote: »

Well if you voted Leave you were clearly voting to Leave the single market - all the major politicians said so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEDnB0raTQQ

6.12

When people voted to leave the EU they voted to leave the EU. Not one single person voted to curb immigration or stop paying money to the EU. That may well have been why they voted to leave but that might not be what they end up with. Time will tell.

Similarly, this 'take our country back' mantra doesn't mean that you or I (unless you're an MP) have any more say whatsoever in how our country will be run in future.

Thrugelmir

Ballard wrote: »

Not one single person voted to curb immigration

Cameron went and discussed the issue. The EU's position was non-negotiable. (Something I have no issue with as is fundamental to the EU itself). People then voted on the basis of the EU's position, i.e. rejection. If they were the government of the day they would be have been voted out of office. Nothing could be clearer.

gfplux

ruggedtoast wrote: »

That's because we've had to agree to cover any eventual net costs caused by being outside the single market.

If the EU imposes 100℅ import duties on Nissans made in the UK, and Nissan decide to sell 100 million cars there, that's what we are now liable for.

Of course by the Brexitwit standard of consecutively fcking absolutely everything up, I suppose that does look like a win for you.

It was all forecast on the side of the Brexit battle bus but I don't know how to post the picture.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Maybe when Brexit voters start to discover they can no longer afford things after the vote that they could afford before the vote it will finally begin to sink in that leaving the EU isn't all some jolly jape to upset the French.

You mean, in the same way the people of Greece and the southern EU states learned that living on borrowings, high wages and benefits, a high exchange rate, large foreign a/c deficit gave them a wondeful standard of living ........... for a while
whilst the miserable Germans, suffered from a low exchange rate, concentrated on exports, have a current a/c surplus and a lower standard of living.

still toxic toastie is more interested in lifting the UK living standards to those of his much admired Venezuela

Ballard

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Change your buying habits then. Support UK food producers and help rebalance the UK economy. Buying imported product does nothing to help the UK's balance of trade deficit.

I have long bought British where possible (beef & lamb to name but two examples). Does the UK produce pasta? It certainly doesn't grow rice. Red wine is a no no as are (realistically) computers and mobile phones. Are we supposed to give up on the idea of bananas, pineapples, tea & coffee?

It's all very well espousing 'Buy British' but you have to let realism into the equation.