If we vote for Brexit what happens

ruggedtoast

mayonnaise wrote: »

How does a good Brexiteer look like?

BobQ

Conrad wrote: »

Another Brexit thread, yes. I cannot over-state how fascinating I find the Cult of Remain, it's a living experiment into the awesome power of Human resistance to change and immunity to fact.


FACT;
It is obvious EU - UK trade will not be deliberately hampered by the EU, thus it goes without saying that a perfectly good trading relationship will be settled upon.


So the question is, what will ardent Remainers say on the day this all becomes a reality? What coping mechanisms will they deploy?

This one will say he is pleased that a good deal has been obtained.

I will not need a coping mechanism. I already know it has happened: you say it is a fact. Please reference this deal. I cannot find it on any Government website.

redux

Conrad wrote: »

Ah I get it, no matter what landscape ends up being in place, Remainers will somehow claim it was 'only a soft brexit'.


All their doom n gloom fairy stories will be out of mind I would guess

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Ah yes, Nissan:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-nissan-idUKKCN12R13C

Now apply all the "spin" you want BUT there is NO WAY that such a major investment would go ahead unless they were CERTAIN.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37787890

I accept that it is "early days".
I also accept that not everything will be trouble-free.
As (I suspect) do most that support a UK out of the EU.

When you've seen copies of the letters from cabinet ministers promising to insulate Nissan from the consequences of Brexit, tell us again about how much risk and certainty and confidence are involved.

How many secret deals or reassurances will other companies get from a desperate government before the disparate parts of the Brexit campaign unravel further?

Am I being unfair? Some Brexit campaigners and supporters want to stay in the Single Market, and some are adamant to be outside it. Underwriting reassurances to large companies might sound like a clue about the direction of that argument

rtho782

There is no way we'll have a trade deal in place in 2 years, and there is no way the 2 years will get extended.

Both of these things require unanimous approval of the EU27. Some random town in some random EU nation will decide it doesn't want to compete with UK widget manufacturers and cause it to be vetoed (see CETA).

Masomnia

rtho782 wrote: »

There is no way we'll have a trade deal in place in 2 years, and there is no way the 2 years will get extended.

Both of these things require unanimous approval of the EU27. Some random town in some random EU nation will decide it doesn't want to compete with UK widget manufacturers and cause it to be vetoed (see CETA).

I can't see any countries getting vetoes on trade deals again after this recent fiasco.

prosaver

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Like hes got balls, all u remainers are bunch of sore loses .. get over it ... Nissan s good news.. Remainers say ooh they must have had help..winge wine winge
Nissan as usual said they were going to leave again, remember the euro?
Hey, ho, there still here.

Take a lesson in life ..it might do u good. http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/science-of-happiness/positive-thinking/

Btw this is what a brexit looks like...:)
:beer::beer::j

nkomp18

Shouldn't we wait for Brexit to actually happen before we can comment on what the effects of it will be?

It hasn't happened yet, so nothing too dramatic should have happened by now. I expect after March things to get very tumultuous, UK pound hitting new lows and of course financial services making an exit from the UK. But this is just my speculation, I'm curious to wait and see just how bad things get and I do hope, for the sake of everyone, that I am proven wrong in the end.

I'm more interested in UK surviving this or at least England in case the union breaks apart, rather than singing the "I told you so" song.

Herzlos

The_Last_Username wrote: »

Retail sales grow faster than expected, suggesting no Brexit fear amongst the great British public.
Faster than they have in a while in fact, according to the CBI:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-economy-retail-idUKKCN12R15D

Didn't retail sales go up ahead of the VAT hike as well, with people bringing forward purchases to avoid the price hike?

I, certainly, bought a few foreign sources items (because we don't make them here) earlier than I would have done, to get them at the pre-adjusted GBP price. I can see plenty of others doing the same do, be it with TVs, cameras, cars, etc, because the weakened GBP means these things are all going to have to go up by about 15%.

BobQ

kinger101 wrote: »

What do you think the advantages of EEA are over just remaining in the EU? Do you think it would be palatable to the majority of those who wanted to leave.

To me, EEA is the worst of both worlds.

Well who knows what the majority of those who supported leave wanted?

We could infer that the 48% who didn't vote to leave were in favour of remaining in the single market, so I would suggest that more people would support the EEA option than the fanciful ideas of that those who want a hard Brexit.

The pro Brexiteers have got their way, we leave whatever damage it inflicts on the UK. I genuinely feel sorry for those who are about to suffer the consequences and I hope that common sense prevails rather than intransigence (or Davis/Fox or Junker).

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

However, why would a business that has a highly complex technical operation, composing of delicate and sophisticated robotics, I.T. plant machinery and supply chain place move away ? Any decision was probably less to do with Brexit and more to do with common sense. I would not see that as a "Brexit win".

The news doesn't fit your agenda it seems. That's the problem with having a fixed inflexible mindset ( like the EU). As nothing stands still. The world is constantly in a state of flux. Being at the forefront is what really matters.