If we vote for Brexit what happens

BobQ

The_Last_Username wrote: »

Ah, there speaks one who has obviously not tried that recently.
(And btw yes I have done this - or at least tried to, longer-term. Also I have been through and indeed to Frankfurt airport many times.)

Quite besides the travelling to and from each airport (no mean task in itself) you have a minimum two hour wait from check-in until flight departure.
In reality then, your "weekend" is one day long since the remainder is either travel or preparing for travel..
If (that is) you're lucky and all goes well and to schedule AND if you leave on the Friday to begin your "weekend" - and you would be lucky to be "home" by midnight.
Also you previously said Monday/Friday; since your Monday flight in whichever direction would need to be at no later than say 4am for a start at say 8 (so a 95 minute flight, plus disembarking etc.; then travel to place of work), you need to be at the airport by 2am ......... get the idea?

Even if you're young(ish) and healthy, the continued commute every weekend slowly but surely takes its toll.
Physically and mentally, as well as strain upon family (if you have one).

So those few that may choose the travel option will slowly but surely decrease in number for these reasons alone.

I have tried long weekly commutes of that kind although not to Frankfurt. But I agree with you.

Ballard made the point that people could live in London and do a weekly commute to Frankfurt. I was just suggesting they might choose to do it the other way. But I agree that if someone takes that on they will most likely not do it in the long term for the reasons you say

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

I never said they would, but your belief is not found on fact it is just your opinion. Frankly it does not matter if they do or they do not, the point is that skilled work is moving from the UK to the EU.

What's changed? I know several people that moved to Silicon Valley due to work and ultimately made the US their home.

German banks are reducing headcount like every other bank. So perhaps it's more a question of contraction rather than expansion. With the locals keeping their jobs with only the work transferred.

CLAPTON

BobQ wrote: »

I never said they would, but your belief is not found on fact it is just your opinion. Frankly it does not matter if they do or they do not, the point is that skilled work is moving from the UK to the EU.

The functions those people perform will ultimately not reside here, corporate and personal taxes will be levied for the benefit of the German economy not ours. Furthermore the suppliers to those banks of goods and services in London will lose business and perhaps jobs. The people employed to deliver those functions in Frankfurt will sustain the provision of goods and services in Germany at the expense of those they used to sustain in London.

I agree
however, in this particular sub topic, the issue was about whether PEOPLE would relocate or not and NOT about thejobs moving.

This is what the experts meant when they said Brexit would cause the economy to contract. You may not care but those selling for example office cleaning services and running wine and sandwich bars in London and those employed by them will see things differently. That is the inevitable result of a hard Brexit.

I agree that change takes place all the time : companies start and go bankrupt: I tend not to mourn their passing as I see it an inevitable part of life and has been, on balance, hugely beneficial for all of us.

brexit will indeed bring changes : how many banking job will go remains to be seen but I certainly believe a significant number will move.
It seems reasonable that new jobs will start that will take advantage of the new and developing situation.

I am pleased to see that you are now a supporter of financial services and of bankers.

CLAPTON

Ballard wrote: »

People move all of the time for work. My brother now lives in Manchester, for example. He returns to London once or twice a year to see the family. My point is that although it wouldn't be easy to leave loved ones, when needs must it has to be done.

I believe that most people won't relocate to a different country for work.
Indeed my expericne of several company relocations, is that most people won't relocate quite modest distances even within the UK.

Ballard

CLAPTON wrote: »

I believe that most people won't relocate to a different country for work.
Indeed my expericne of several company relocations, is that most people won't relocate quite modest distances even within the UK.

Fair enough. Germans would take the jobs and we'd have jobseekers instead.

CLAPTON

Ballard wrote: »

Fair enough. Germans would take the jobs and we'd have jobseekers instead.

an awesomely stupid post

Ballard

CLAPTON wrote: »

an awesomely stupid post

In what way? If (and it is only an if at the moment) some banks move their European operations to Germany they will need employees. If those currently employed in the city choose not to go with them the banks will employ locally. Those left behind will either retire or seek employment.

Yamumuk

prosaver wrote: »

calm down .....
nothings happened yet .. the dead weight is the EU and will be bankrupts, or have you forgotten about the past years ..

project fear , still hear..
noughts happened
They said theyll leave if we dont have the euro.:):):):)

Your advice is neither welcome or noted. If I wanted a Brexiter to advise me anything I would ask until then button it and go blame someone for all your ills like you normally do. You have proven yourself to be hateful, blaming, selfish, divisive, inconsiderate, unthinking, foolhardy, regressive, quite possibly very dim and ungrateful.

I don't take advice from people like that. I avoid them and take them down a peg or 2.

You know less than nothing.

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

Your advice is neither welcome or noted. If I wanted a Brexiter to advise me anything I would ask until then button it and go blame someone for all your ills like you normally do. You have proven yourself to be hateful, blaming, selfish, divisive, inconsiderate, unthinking, foolhardy, regressive, quite possibly very dim and ungrateful.

I don't take advice from people like that. I avoid them and take them down a peg or 2.

You know less than nothing.

Better than your endless ramblings. Which add no value to the debate.

gfplux

BobQ wrote: »

I have tried long weekly commutes of that kind although not to Frankfurt. But I agree with you.

Ballard made the point that people could live in London and do a weekly commute to Frankfurt. I was just suggesting they might choose to do it the other way. But I agree that if someone takes that on they will most likely not do it in the long term for the reasons you say

Some people have done it, do it long term. When I did it there were many familiar faces on the flights just like your local bus journey really but more friendly.
If you do it regularly you fine tune the journey to minimise the time taken door to door.
I agree it is unnatural.

However the above is all away from the original topic/within topic which was about Foreigners (French were mentioned) who work in London. If the job moves to... Frankfurt, Luxembourg or Paris people move. The point I make is those people now feel destabilised and will be looking to put their talent to work WITHIN the EU if there were a job to come up.
If you are not an immigrant you have no idea what will make you, your partner or even the children begin to feel uncomfortable and MORE foreign.