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Child Benefit & Child Maintenance

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  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    edited 9 January 2016 at 4:32PM
    pigpen wrote: »
    She has 2 different grants/bursaries and the loan.. plus a grant to cover childcare which is paid separately.

    The bursary for the nursing or midwifery degree here a 5-6 years ago was £23,000.. though that is not what my daughter is studying, I looked into it and my cousins partner did it and several of my friends started '09/10.

    The bursary for nursing/ midwifery courses has never been that high, particularly for degree courses which were funded partially by loans.
  • cbrown372
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    pigpen wrote: »
    I'm saying I want him to finish his course and no one knows what support he can receive financially to enable him to do that.. if we just had him I would still want him to finish his course and have some income.. they don't stop eating on their 20th birthday!

    still don't get what you mean when you say you can't afford to eat as it is, meaning including the benefits this one son brings to the table?
    Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama ;)
  • pigpen
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    cbrown372 wrote: »
    still don't get what you mean when you say you can't afford to eat as it is, meaning including the benefits this one son brings to the table?


    Its not difficult to comprehend.. once bills are covered so we are not homeless we have nothing left for food..
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  • pigpen
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    The bursary for nursing/ midwifery courses has never been that high, particularly for degree courses which were funded partially by loans.


    most got full fees paid and the bursary.. if they took the loan that was through choice I know a couple who didn't because their partners earned enough to not necessitate that.

    And that is precisely how much the bursaries were.. I just decided I don't do dead enough to decide it was not what I wanted to do and did bio med instead and I had full fees paid and £16,000 bursary.
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  • mumps
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    The bursary for nursing/ midwifery courses has never been that high, particularly for degree courses which were funded partially by loans.

    I don't know where Pigpen is but I know in Wales the degree students did get the full bursary. I know this because a colleagues son started studying nursing in 2010 at the same time mine did in England. However, I can tell you for a fact the bursary was nothing like £23k:rotfl:I will mention that to his mum when I see her. She will be highly amused. I think it was about £6k.
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  • LilElvis
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    pigpen wrote: »
    extremely generous.. pmsl.. yeah.. ok.. you live on which planet exactly??

    How much do I get in your twisted mind??

    Now I am irate! PMSL? No I'm not!

    My husband works himself to the bone, pays every penny the government asks for in taxes and provides everything his child requires in terms of housing, clothing and food - and this will include paying for any post 18 education. In addition he is paying for YOUR CHILDREN to have the same, through his taxes.

    If you were a net "giver" into the system, as opposed to the "taker" you are, you would have an understanding as to why tax-payers get so !!!!ed off. We didn't have children we couldn't afford, so why did you?
  • cbrown372
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    pigpen wrote: »
    Its not difficult to comprehend.. once bills are covered so we are not homeless we have nothing left for food..

    time to stop having babies then perhaps if you can't feed the ones you already have
    Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama ;)
  • burlington6
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    No wonder this country is in the state it's in
  • pigpen
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    edited 9 January 2016 at 4:54PM
    LilElvis wrote: »
    Now I am irate! PMSL? No I'm not!

    My husband works himself to the bone, pays every penny the government asks for in taxes and provides everything his child requires in terms of housing, clothing and food - and this will include paying for any post 18 education. In addition he is paying for YOUR CHILDREN to have the same, through his taxes.

    If you were a net "giver" into the system, as opposed to the "taker" you are, you would have an understanding as to why tax-payers get so !!!!ed off. We didn't have children we couldn't afford, so why did you?


    With that way of thinking that's a pretty good thing you didn't!

    Is the cretinous slimebag piece of filth that allegedly fathered my children not also paying tax? Do I not pay it? Do my children not also pay? Or my childrens partners? you carry on like your husband.. not yourself.. is the only person in the world who pays it.. sorry to burst that bubble but he isn't.

    and you didn't answer my question.. how much do I get in your altered reality??

    I had my children to pay your pensions when you are sat in your own pee in a nursing home, to wipe your behind and clean your soiled clothes, to clean your house and fix your heating when it breaks, to provide you with clothes and food when you cannot afford to do so yourself. To bring your shopping and make you well when you are ill, to keep you safe when you are in the street and vulnerable.. They may one day save your life or rescue you from danger.. They might save the planet.. yours won't!
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  • FBaby
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    I think the system is perfectly fair. Maintenance and benefits are paid until child can either start to work and support themselves, or they can get grant and bursaries for Uni. It is only fair that maintenance should stop at this stage. Of course, that doesn't mean that the now adult can get additional financial help from both parents directly.

    I had a few friends at uni (including myself) whose divorced dad was happy to contribute directly. As a matter of fact, many nrp are very happy to do so as their issue with maintenance is not to support their child but the fact that it goes to the pwc with no idea how the money is then spent. nrps who don't contribute anything either do so because they don't believe they should once their child is at uni, or can't afford it , or have lost touch with the now adult and again, but in either of these three instances, it is no different to families that are not separated/divorced.

    If a child decides to stop their education and then later decide to return, then they have to accept that the rules are different and like many mature student, they might need to consider going to college on a part-time basis around their job. Maybe what would help if this was made clear to them by their parents when they decide to interrupt their studies.
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