Child Benefit & Child Maintenance

pigpen

tomtontom wrote: »

*All* you get? Are you implying it is a small amount?

I'm sorry, I don't get this pleading ignorance when you clearly know the system very well. Even if you didn't, if you Google "when does child benefit end" you get multiple results from CAB, the government website, and more - all giving the information you apparently cannot find.

child benefit ends on the 20th birthday, everyone knows this.. next Friday.. then what?? that is what no one knows. It isn't the end date in question it is what is he supposed to live on after that that no one seems to know. You have utterly missed the point.

If you are in the fortunate position where you are ineligible for tax credits or child benefit.. whoop-de-doo for you.. you are the minority!

Darksparkle wrote: »

No it isn't the same. A child moving from one non advanced education to another is entitled continuously to 20.

A child moving from advanced education to non advanced education must have been accepted into the non advanced course before their 19th birthday. This is because you are having to reclaim for the child.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/tctmanual/TCTM02220.htm

19 year old
The Child Tax Credit (Amendment) Regulations 2006 Regulation 4
A person aged 19 or over on 16 August 2007 is not a qualifying young person, unless they were enrolled on or were accepted to undertake approved training or a course of full-time non-advanced education before they attained age 19.

I don't care what you are stating.. I know in my experience it was different.. My oldest had claimed income support for 16 months then came home, enrolled at college and we reclaimed 5 months after his 19th birthday. we were maybe just the other side of those changes though for him.

This son enrolled on this new level 3 course this September and we still get support for him.. until Friday..

pigpen

borkid wrote: »

Good grief a friend ( over 30) is on ESA support group and gets less than that per week to support herself and pay her mortgage.

and DLA and Carers/attendance allowance and council tax benefit and goodness knows what else.. this is why it was suggested he apply for ESA by the customer services lady at DWP.

Darksparkle

pigpen wrote: »

child benefit ends on the 20th birthday, everyone knows this.. next Friday.. then what?? that is what no one knows. It isn't the end date in question it is what is he supposed to live on after that that no one seems to know. You have utterly missed the point.

If you are in the fortunate position where you are ineligible for tax credits or child benefit.. whoop-de-doo for you.. you are the minority!




I don't care what you are stating.. I know in my experience it was different.. My oldest had claimed income support for 16 months then came home, enrolled at college and we reclaimed 5 months after his 19th birthday. we were maybe just the other side of those changes though for him.

This son enrolled on this new level 3 course this September and we still get support for him.. until Friday..

How rude. What a lovely way to speak to someone trying to help.

And you haven't actually said what level of course your child was doing before the new level 3 course which as I have pointed out, makes all the difference.

tomtontom

pigpen wrote: »

child benefit ends on the 20th birthday, everyone knows this.. next Friday.. then what?? that is what no one knows. It isn't the end date in question it is what is he supposed to live on after that that no one seems to know. You have utterly missed the point.

If you are in the fortunate position where you are ineligible for tax credits or child benefit.. whoop-de-doo for you.. you are the minority!




I don't care what you are stating.. I know in my experience it was different.. My oldest had claimed income support for 16 months then came home, enrolled at college and we reclaimed 5 months after his 19th birthday. we were maybe just the other side of those changes though for him.

This son enrolled on this new level 3 course this September and we still get support for him.. until Friday..

The answer has already been given - the 20 year old should look for employment.

How is that not obvious?

mumps

pigpen wrote: »

that's less than a uni student gets but they still have course materials and travel to pay for as well as food and clothes and housing/bills.. it's a darn site less than they would get working or living independently.. why should they not have the means to continue studying? Everyone is entitled to apply, it's only child benefit and tax credits the same as the OP mentioned.. why should we not get them? if it was your child you too could claim tax credits are based on your income. How is that in any way related to 'benefit claimants'?? (I'm assuming you are trying to be derogatory to those in receipt of unemployment benefits as usual)

All those on other threads complaining about how parents don't support independently living uni students therebdren of the same age at college they are flamed for that too.. So it's ok to have loans and grants and bursaries if you are 20 and at uni but not if you are at college studying a course of the same level? My daughter at uni gets double what he does PLUS childcare grants.. why should she have it and not him?

I don't know any uni students on £10,000 a year and their main income will be loans for most of them. I wish mine had been getting £200 a week when they were at uni, would have saved me a fortune.

pigpen

tomtontom wrote: »

The answer has already been given - the 20 year old should look for employment.

How is that not obvious?

he is in full time education.. the same as my 21 year old at uni who receives financial support..


he also spends double the amount of time at college that she does at uni.

Georgiegirl256

pigpen wrote: »

child benefit ends on the 20th birthday, everyone knows this.. next Friday.. then what?? that is what no one knows. It isn't the end date in question it is what is he supposed to live on after that that no one seems to know. You have utterly missed the point.
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What is he meant to live on? Either look for employment or you as the parent support him.

When I was at college, I got a free bus pass and that was it. Anything else my parents had to pay for. Not that there really was much else, just some books and exam fees. I was still living at home at that point, which I assume for your posts your son is too?

tomtontom

pigpen wrote: »

he is in full time education.. the same as my 21 year old at uni who receives financial support..


he also spends double the amount of time at college that she does at uni.

Is he at college seven days a week? If not, then unless there is something you're not telling us there is no reason why he should not be earning.

pigpen

the actual hours he spends at college are irrelevant it is a full time course requiring full time hours, you would expect someone doing 36 hours of one thing to do another task for a further 30+ hours.. Hi is doing the same as a uni student so he should get the same level of support .. why discriminate?

He actually has a degree of learning difficulties so cannot cope with more.. not severe enough he cannot do anything for himself but I very much doubt fully independent living will happen for a very long time, if ever. That isn't really relevant either, but there are very few jobs he could actually do, even shop work would be difficult.

mumps

pigpen wrote: »

the actual hours he spends at college are irrelevant it is a full time course requiring full time hours the same as a uni student so he should get the same level of support .. why discriminate?

He actually has a degree of learning difficulties so cannot cope with more.. not severe enough he cannot do anything for himself but I very much doubt fully independent living will happen for a very long time, if ever. That isn't really relevant either, but there are very few jobs he could actually do, even shop work would be difficult.

Well the rules are different for supporting students on different types of courses but why do you think he would get £200 a week on a university course? The only students I can think of who would get that would be students with children and as such they would have alot more expense and really that extra money is for the child not them.