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What are our rights playing the drums?

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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    SailorSam wrote: »

    Aahh he's only little, he's only playing. It would be a sadder world without the sound of children enjoying themselves.

    Not to the OP who objects to the sound of the neighbour's children playing outside in the summer.
  • robatwork
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    Towser wrote: »

    But what does the law say? Does anyone know?


    Firstly you need to accept that you are a noisy neighbour.

    Your question then is, what's reasonable? For me, if I lived in a flat, terrace or semi detached, then 0 hours drumming would be reasonable. The laws you should research are:

    Noise act 1996
    Housing act 1985
    Environmental Protection act 1990

    If I were you I would make a phone call to my council's Environmental Officer to discuss, and get their recommendations. That's who your neighbour will soon be complaining to.
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    edited 27 December 2015 at 12:34PM
    Towser wrote: »
    Yes of course that is the reasonable thing to do.

    But what does the law say? Does anyone know?
    have you tried looking?

    "Your rights when it comes to the Noise and Statutory Nuisance Act 1993 work in conjunction with the Environmental Protection Act 1990 and the Noise Act 1996, and when it comes to neighbourhood issues, it is aimed at protecting those who wish to make a complaint about excessive noise that is affecting their quality of life."

    I suggest you start reading if you feel the law should entitle you to behave in a rather selfish manner. There is no "safe" time during which you can make a noise that others find a nuisance, there is a reasonable test given to "normal" noise (eg building site works), however, your source of noise is not regarded as "normal"
    http://www.legislation.gov.uk
  • duchy
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    I think it is very telling how few drummers have responded to your endless requests for them to do so.

    Have you considered why that might be ?
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  • phill99
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    This is another example of 'I know my rights'. It's a pity the OP didn't head the post "what are my responsibilities" and people would be more helpful.

    Op: Your rights are to move to a house in the middle of nowhere and let your son bang his drums until his heart is content and your hearing is permanently impaired. But don't inflict this on other people.

    You are the worst kind of neighbour anyone could have.
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  • DevilsAdvocate1
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    edited 27 December 2015 at 12:56PM
    Towser wrote: »
    Yes and kid is loving it.



    it does not get rid of the sound altogether and kid can always take them off. Just like he knew he was not supposed to play them at Messy Church he knows he was not supposed to take them off. It's just too irresistible - only a drummer would know this. This is why I am seeking drummers point of view rather than anti noise point of view.

    I understand the misery noise causes. Can you understand the joy, the ability to be free when you are trapped all the time by Autism? The Sensory therapy, the input ect ect

    I'd also like to hear from people who teach disabled people the drums.

    My son started learning the drums when he was 4 or 5 (can't remember now). We have a full size drum kit, though its not setup all the time.

    The place where he has his drum lessons is an end of terrace house. They have 4 studios and they soundproofed them all fairly cheaply. The saved (and got people to donate) egg boxes, which they stuck to the wall. Plasterboard was placed over this and instead of using wallpaper, they've used carpet. All 4 studios can be accessed from the waiting room, and when I'm waiting for him I can't hear any music at all.

    Maybe this is something you could try. If you don't want to carpet the wall, at least do the egg boxes.
  • Towser
    Towser Posts: 1,303 Forumite
    I think it is very telling how few drummers have responded to your endless requests for them to do so.

    Have you considered why that might be ?

    Because you the majority are just the anti noise brigade (must not drum at all) rather than coming up with constructive solutions.
  • Goldiegirl
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    It's a funny old world where peoples first thoughts are their 'rights'

    I think MSE has helped create this world, where it's all about rights and compensation, rather than consideration and personal responsibility.

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  • Innys1
    Innys1 Posts: 3,434 Forumite
    phill99 wrote: »
    This is another example of 'I know my rights'. It's a pity the OP didn't head the post "what are my responsibilities" and people would be more helpful.

    Op: Your rights are to move to a house in the middle of nowhere and let your son bang his drums until his heart is content and your hearing is permanently impaired. But don't inflict this on other people.

    You are the worst kind of neighbour anyone could have.

    I couldn't agree more.

    Rather than have some consideration for their neighbours, the OP is more concerned about their "rights" - as if their neighbours have none.

    The OP then goes on to complain about the neighbours' children playing in their gardens.

    You couldn't make it up.........or then again, perhaps you could..........trolling?
  • Towser
    Towser Posts: 1,303 Forumite
    Noise act 1996
    Housing act 1985
    Environmental Protection act 1990

    If I were you I would make a phone call to my council's Environmental Officer to discuss, and get their recommendations. That's who your neighbour will soon be complaining to.

    This did not work/help me when travellers were noisy 24/7 and living next door to us. So I was wondering what actually pushes the authorities into action?
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