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HO87

N9eav wrote: »

It would be a great thought if it worked, but the British public won't do it. Take my town in Cornwall. PE have the management of car parks for Aldi, Mc Donalds, KFC, Costa, Travelodge. In Newquay, the best surfing beach (Fistral) in the county. Try telling people not to use those places would be a challenge. The Aldi in our town is packed almost all day every day. So is the KFC, Mc D's, Costa.

I thought Newquay left the county in the 1970's and became a self-administering enclave of a mixture of Eastenders, Brummies and Scousers? and as for Fistral I thought they had extended the beach so far to pack more in that if you wanted to get into the water these days you had to join the queue? At least at Gwithian and Portreath you can actually get into the water - and they were my local beaches anyway. I used to by-pass Fistral in favour of Watergate - and that was in the 70's - as at least you could park. That said my home town is infested with Armtrac - nothing to boast about.

Your overall point is I believe correct but using the behaviour of people in Newquay as a baseline from which to draw that conclusion is probably a bit shaky.

N9eav wrote: »

Awareness works, just like speed cameras. Don't speed. No prosecution.

Well, there isn't actually any prosecution here either - going to the small claims court is not a prosecution but your point is still good.

N9eav wrote: »

To be fair, its like our costa and KFC car park. If it were not managed, then all the employees of shops and businesses for the town would park there and leave no space for the customers of those food places that own the car park.

Hopefully not by one of the PPC skimdustry. There are other perfectly realistic options before you employ one of them. I'm afraid that if you employ a PPC you are either too lazy to look at other options or are likely to be interested in the kick-back.

N9eav wrote: »

Play be the rules. You have 90 minutes to eat a KFC (longer if you have a party and tell the manager your reg number). No tickets, No profits for Capita.

In my daughter's case, I am not happy with the debt collecting companies letter as it does not state what its about. That in itself needs addressing as a point of law as to try and collect money for something that the motorist has not even had due process to appeal about it really quite ridiculous. Even worse PE would lie in court and say we sent these letters. (without proof of posting) which would be accepted I suspect.

I remain at a loss to know why people still become so agitated about debt collector letters. A debt collector has no teeth. None. As a result they perpetuate the myth that they do have teeth - and therefore power - by making a lot of noise and strutting around like they own the place.

The very best they can do is to shout loudly and bully by foreshortening deadlines, deliberately sending letters which offer a maximum of 14 days to respond on Day 10 and sending a stream of letters in quick succession to pile on the pressure. Add to that bullying texts, phone calls and threatened calls at your door - that never materialise. They are just strutting, preening bullies that have succeeded in carving out for themselves a piece of the action in the scum and rubbish at the bottom of the pond.

As soon as you understand that debt collectors only make their money if they persuade you to pay (and care not the slightest if you really owe it or not); recognise the liberal use of such words as "may" and "possibly" in their letters; and realise that their staff are on strict "recovery" targets all becomes clear. There never is and never has been anything to fear about debt collectors. That said it would be unwise to think that the CSA are going to protect you from their members. They are yet another example of an old boys, trade protection society made good in exactly the same way as the BPA is. Both of the organisations exist to protect and promote the interests of their members.

N9eav

HO87 wrote: »

I remain at a loss to know why people still become so agitated about debt collector letters. A debt collector has no teeth. None. As a result they perpetuate the myth that they do have teeth - and therefore power - by making a lot of noise and strutting around like they own the place.
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I agree, Yes, ignore the debt collectors. But having assisted a daughter with a previous PE thing once it went to the Northampton civil court, Its still a nuisance. People do get afraid of the words 'court' 'bailiff' ' CCJ' etc and even though I am made of stiffer material, it is still a headache that is not easily ignored as gone are the days when you keep on putting the succession of paper in the bin. Fighting idiots takes time and effort and rather avoided in the first place.



I hate Newquay too. I don't surf, but it would be Sennen if I did. I fish. I like to stay on top of the water.

beamerguy

salmosalaris wrote: »

Really ? Let's see some action and not just words from you
I'm not holding my breath

I am already doing it, how about you ???

Umkomaas

I remain at a loss to know why people still become so agitated about debt collector letters. A debt collector has no teeth. None. As a result they perpetuate the myth that they do have teeth - and therefore power - by making a lot of noise and strutting around like they own the place.

The very best they can do is to shout loudly and bully by foreshortening deadlines, deliberately sending letters which offer a maximum of 14 days to respond on Day 10 and sending a stream of letters in quick succession to pile on the pressure. Add to that bullying texts, phone calls and threatened calls at your door - that never materialise. They are just strutting, preening bullies that have succeeded in carving out for themselves a piece of the action in the scum and rubbish at the bottom of the pond.

As soon as you understand that debt collectors only make their money if they persuade you to pay (and care not the slightest if you really owe it or not); recognise the liberal use of such words as "may" and "possibly" in their letters; and realise that their staff are on strict "recovery" targets all becomes clear. There never is and never has been anything to fear about debt collectors. That said it would be unwise to think that the CSA are going to protect you from their members. They are yet another example of an old boys, trade protection society made good in exactly the same way as the BPA is. Both of the organisations exist to protect and promote the interests of their members.

An 'as-good-as-it-gets' overview of the parking industry debt collector scenario.

If you don't mind HO, I've copied it into my notes and will use it when answering the daily frenzy of 'help, there's a debt collector on my [STRIKE]doorstep[/STRIKE] case' - with due acknowledgment when used.

HO87

N9eav wrote: »

I agree, Yes, ignore the debt collectors. But having assisted a daughter with a previous PE thing once it went to the Northampton civil court, Its still a nuisance. People do get afraid of the words 'court' 'bailiff' ' CCJ' etc and even though I am made of stiffer material, it is still a headache that is not easily ignored as gone are the days when you keep on putting the succession of paper in the bin. Fighting idiots takes time and effort and rather avoided in the first place.

Indeed. That's why I recommend that debt collectors - whether they form part of the exalted (though God only knows why) Crapita group or not - should properly be ignored. However, Letters before Action or genuine court papers should not. I have found that ignoring debt collectors actually helps to de-stress the situation - given that they are employed to do precisely the opposite.

N9eav wrote: »

I hate Newquay too. I don't surf, but it would be Sennen if I did. I fish. I like to stay on top of the water.

Sensible. I wouldn't say I hate Newquay but its a place that doesn't really fit in with the rest of the county regardless of the time of year. And its a place you pretty much avoid. Its influence spreads though.

@Umkomaas - go for your life.

4consumerrights

beamerguy wrote: »

I am already doing it, how about you ???

@ Beamerguy .... Oh good - perhaps you would like to point us in the direction of your twitter feed in that case as we have a number of active campaigners using twitter - perhaps we may retweet any useful posts...

FYI Salmosalaris has done a lot of "action" regarding private parking tickets and certainly does not have to prove anything to you :-)

FWIW all the "grand" ideas spouted on the threads plagued recently are not anything new ...

Educating the public / complaining to the landowner/ retailers has been around for quite some time including perhaps the advice not to use places where a PPC is in situ..

However how would you advise those who have a PPC where they live or work for instance?

Or have you taken heed of the Parking Cowboys survey, results just published, indicating indeed that the majority of motorists were unaware of parking restrictions.

salmosalaris

beamerguy wrote: »

I am already doing it, how about you ???

That question does not even deserve an answer

In fact PM me . Ive a good number of court claims and POPLA appeals to do . I could pass some over
There again ....

HO87

Gp1990

I rang these guys at equita today in panic before I looked here

I have a £200 fine that needs to be paid by 24th December (apparently) but if I make an arrangement they want £50 upfront to consider and then everything within 3months,

£200 though? I don't remember getting the fine!

The girl on the phone actually said these types aren't normally enforced anyway so not to worry as long as I pay £50 on xmas eve.

Coupon-mad

It's not a fine and of course she said that. Why would ANYONE ring a debt collector, what do you think they will say?

Google 'ParkingEye Equita' first, surely. If you pay anything you've been mugged.