Being a Kleeneze Distributor

John_Jackson_2

Portlandbill wrote:

Before pulling holes in a company would it not be an idea to do some research on them ?

It is the concept of MLM that is in question; not any particular company.

You'd be better off researching MLM for what it is. It’s MLM itself that is the scam.

I have been warning people off getting involved in MLMs for about 15 years now. Not everyone has listened to me. I've seen people selling perfumes, household products, delivering catalogues, and even selling telephone and internet services via MLM.

They were all different companies selling different products, but they were all marketed by MLM.

I have never yet seen one person make money out of MLM: not one. And I've seen some of the most enthusiastic people try it too.

Lawbag_2

I would say the saddest thing about these MLM et al schemes is that you actively seek out family and friends as (a) potential customers and worse (b) potential distributors. Because of the nature of these schemes and false promises of get-rich, by recruiting family and friends this ultimately leads to bad feelings when these promises fail to materialise.

So friends become acquaintances, and family dont phone you as often as they used to. This is not hearsay or stereotyping, but personal experience.

Those people who I have known as friends and family who have become part of a MLM selling system no longer see a social gathering as what it really is, but rather an opportunity to sell. To have a friend whip out a catalogue and order pad during sunday lunch at our local pub, was a bit too much. So therefore I dont see him/her (it is common for MLM people to have their partners involved as well).

It must be THOSE kind of people. I know "friends" who have been duped not once, twice, but in some cases 3 and 4 times into joining a MLM scheme. People never learn.

The techniques used in recruiting MLM/Pyramid are not that dissimilar to recruitment techniques for cults and brainwashing, and Im gonna incur someones wrath by saying that either I know some fairly socially inadequate people or those that fall for the evils of MLM are SI.

We all love the lure of easy money, and ironically it is those who can least afford to lose the money or valuable time.

At an average of £ 1.50 per hour, there has to be an "easier" way of earning money.

Flame-proof underpants at the ready :A

BFG_2

Portlandbill wrote:

Before pulling holes in a company would it not be an idea to do some research on them ?

For MLM companies - generally not necessary, but just to be sure I've had a look at EE, and gee what a shock!!; basically stuff with a 150% markup on normal highstreet prices. (eg in the DIY section, box of gloves for £2.50 available for £1 elsewhere).

Is a suitable mnemonic for 'MLM' "Most Lose Money"??



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kleeneze.itworks

kleeneze top company people have to remember this company has helped loads of people by giving them a chance to earn money ...the people who stoped doing kleeneze are the people who if they started up a business it would have gone to the wall because they blame every thing else but thm selfs...i would recomend kleeneze to any body who needed a 2nd income ....so up yours... your income that is....keep charging you rhinos...

Debbie_3-2

sawanderer wrote:

I am thinking of joining up (possibly with Kleeneze) but want to know if anyone has any advice about which distributor/team/group/upline to sign up with?

I have had contact with the Fast Forward, Pole Position, Samurai and Briffa groups. Are there any differences between these (and other groups) ?

Are there any questions I should be asking the distributors to make sure they are keen and able to help me make it a success?
Thanks.

Nobody seems to answered your questions, so heres my advice although i'm in Everyday Essentials now we were with Kleeneze for 21/2 years.You need to find a sponsor that you feel comfortable with as you will be in contact with them a lot initially and it will become a longterm relationship if you intend to teambuild, there are many different groups that all operate slightly differently so you need to find out how they work - some may hold local sizzles, some may hold just national meetings for example, some may sponsor by arranging home visits, some do it by sending info packs and then telephoning, you have to decide exactly what you want and ask your sponsor how they will help you acheive it.
I would suggest contacting a few groups and when you have decided on a group then look at individual sponsors within that group - i really think its very important that you join with a group that suits you rather than just going on hearsay. Always find out about peoples uplines as well - experience, time in biz etc, if your sponsor drops out for instance you will want to know that you feel comfortable going upline for support and that they will help you.
Hope that helps sawanderer and good luck with your venture.

Debbie_3-2

Lawbag wrote:

I would say the saddest thing about these MLM et al schemes is that you actively seek out family and friends as (a) potential customers and worse (b) potential distributors. So friends become acquaintances, and family dont phone you as often as they used to. This is not hearsay or stereotyping, but personal experience.

We all love the lure of easy money, and ironically it is those who can least afford to lose the money or valuable time.

A

Not all MLM schemmes target friends and family - using the catalogue distribution method of Kleeneze and Everyday Essentials we find people by posting a catalogue through the door and some will like it, some won't but you find those that will order. We don't have to use any of the products ourselves - although it obviously makes sense to use them yourself . We for instance use printer cartridges from our catalogue and get our commission and bonuses off them, washing up liquid, washing powders etc from the Ecover environmentally friendly range, cooking sauces etc. The same with sponsoring people into our biz, we only ever let them see what we are doing, if they choose to join fine if not thats fine as well.

I wholeheartedly disagree with it being easy money - it takes effort and time to build and if anyone says it is easy money then they are not telling the truth. Nothing comes free these days, it either takes money and time and in most cases lots of it - like franchises or it takes your time and your effort which is the category MLM falls in and is ideal for those people who want to run their own biz from home but also have the support of a network and who can't afford the franchise/business owner costs of conventional businesses.

jazzyjustlaw

All Kleeneze and Betterware catalogues go back out without my looking at them. They are too expensive.

Edinburghlass_2

:rotfl:

The idea of my kleeneze man having a "sponsor", going to a "sizzle", "national meetings", "uplines" and time in biz ...

Really made my day reading this as it has made me laugh....

:rotfl:

Reminds me of the day an ex-friend tried to sign me up for Amway!

competitionscafe

Debbie wrote:

using the catalogue distribution method of Kleeneze and Everyday Essentials we find people by posting a catalogue through the door and some will like it, some won't but you find those that will order.

Sounds a bit like a paper catalogue version of email spamming - sending people stuff they neither asked for nor want. And what if they have signed up for the MPS (mailing preference service) - no junk mail. How would you know if they had or not? I wouldn't be very impressed if somebody shoved a catalogue through my letter box which i had not asked for, I get enough c&*p in the mail as it is!

kleeneze.itworks

ive seen many a kleeneze agent come and go ,then spout off that it didnt work.the truth is all kleeneze does is supply the products ..so if you have earned nowt then whos fault is that.....its lazy people who see the big cheques and say yeah i could do with sum of that and when after the 2nd week they havnt earned £20,000 they quit....if any 1 can show me there last 3months cheques from any other net work (this will be a laugh)then i'll eat my hat....cos they cant kleeneze is the only company that showed me the money.. as the saying goes....any 1 wanting info on this amazing buz email me [EMAIL=free.info@virgin.net]free.info@virgin.net[/EMAIL]