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Being a Kleeneze Distributor
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jazzyjustlaw wrote:I dont see why you should have to pay out in the first place. You dont with Betterware. Anyway I am one day - all being well - be a partner in a law firm and buy property and rent it out so i will stay in my job thank you. My ultimate ambition is to be a Judge but I can have businesses as well and it doesnt involve delivering catalogues.0
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soolin wrote:I have an ongoing problem with these little catalogues that come through my door as well. It started about 2 years ago, I returned the catalogue with a 'no thank you' and thought that would be it.
More catalogues turned up and I started to put them outside my porch door with a note saying no thank you, but would get an irate collector telling me off for spoiling her catalogues by putting them out in the rain. I said that I didn't want them and was told that I needed to actually put a notice on my door to that effect otherwise she would 'tell' her area supervisor about me.
I was polite but firm and insisted that if she left any more catalogues I would just put them in the recycling pile. The next two or three went into the recycling pile and I thought that was the end of it until my son got told off on my doorstop for not being able to return the catalogue when she called for it (I was out). She worried him by saying that I would be charged for the cost if I couldn't return it.
I can't understand why someone can't realise I don't want them and save themselves money by not leaving them on my doorstep. AT one point i was getting one every three weeks or so, it must have been costing a fortune.
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I still don't really see why I need to put a note in my window, I already have the metropolitan police sticky saying that I don't buy at the door. I'm quite happy to recycle the books without even taking them out of their little plastic bags, I just thought that if they really did cost the distributor money they might just prefer to stop leaving them.
If they're happy to leave the books regularly I'm happy to continue to dump them.
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soolin wrote:I still don't really see why I need to put a note in my window, I already have the metropolitan police sticky saying that I don't buy at the door. I'm quite happy to recycle the books without even taking them out of their little plastic bags, I just thought that if they really did cost the distributor money they might just prefer to stop leaving them.
If they're happy to leave the books regularly I'm happy to continue to dump them.
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soolin wrote:She worried him by saying that I would be charged for the cost if I couldn't return it.
Don't worry , there is no way they can charge you for something you didn't ask for in the first place!"The happiest of people don't necessarily have the
best of everything; they just make the best
of everything that comes along their way."
-- Author Unknown --0 -
kleeneze.itworks wrote:how can you loose money this thread is about kleeneze..if done righ you wont loose money ..stay in the rat race kleenze.itworks and stay inyour j.o.b. just over broke..no pension existnce...
Well I don't have a job, I run my own business. However I think there are far better opportunities than MLM. I have met a lot of other self employed people who earn a good living doing all sorts of different things, but I have yet to meet someone who is doing so with any sort of MLM network. I don't deny that there may be a few who are, but they are in the minority. I have come across people who are keen to recruit me into some sort of mlm scheme under them and they always seem unable (or unwilling) to see the negative aspects, almost like some kind of brainwashing! When you ask them how much money they are actually making, if they are honest about it, the answer is usually very little or none. Most entrepreneurs and small business owners wouldn't touch multi level marketing with a bargepole. A good business should focus on their product/service and their customers - not on building some huge 'downline'."The happiest of people don't necessarily have the
best of everything; they just make the best
of everything that comes along their way."
-- Author Unknown --0 -
you quote - When you ask them how much money they are actually making, if they are honest about it, the answer is usually very little or none.
sorry to say but we earn around £75k - 80k per year from home with Kleeneze
and have dozens and dozens and dozens of our group earning over 2K per month
anyone not believing this are welcome to see as much proof as they needHelp enough people get what they want and you will automatically get what you want0 -
soolin wrote:I still don't really see why I need to put a note in my window, I already have the metropolitan police sticky saying that I don't buy at the door. I'm quite happy to recycle the books without even taking them out of their little plastic bags, I just thought that if they really did cost the distributor money they might just prefer to stop leaving them.
If they're happy to leave the books regularly I'm happy to continue to dump them.
Soo
I agree, I got sick and tired not only of the books coming through our door but the fact they then sat on the doorstep for days on end. These catalogues should be subject to the same MPS as junk mail...0 -
kleeneze.itworks wrote:
I think that many people on here have put up some good posts with some good advice and concerns about MLM.
Take the issue of receiving multiple catalogues.
In MLM you’re told that to make real money you have to build a downline. So what happens is that people start sponsoring their friends and family, building that elusive downline, which creates a team of them. So, there’s an ever-expanding sales force.
Here’s the crux of the problem though: the sales force is increasing but the demand for the product remains constant (i.e. very low). It just ends up as more and more people trying to sell things that very few people want.
When there are too many sales people (and there’s no organisation in MLM) they end up duplicating each other’s efforts and annoying potential customers by covering the same customer base. The reason that people get multiple deliveries from several distributors is because none of them really know what they're doing.
This inherent problem with MLM, market saturation, means that people who join the scheme are paying to join an opportunity to sell to a market that isn't there. That’s why so many people end up losing money.
I am a businessman and I’m a skeptic (What's a skeptic?) who’s investigated MLM twice (Kleeneze and Euphony telecomms).
The reason that I wouldn’t touch an MLM scheme is because I understand them. Which is more than those who are involved in it do.0 -
We live in a village and sometimes have as many as 5 different Kleeneze agents dropping books - i feel for the people who get fed up with this, that was one of the many reasons we stopped Kleeneze even though we had a very good customer base, i found it was embarassing for me and my customers. One Brochure, One Distributor, One area - Good old Fashioned Service today is what the Everyday Essentials Catalogue says - if someone says to us that they don't want to see the catalogue then they know they won't because we have our own area and no other EE book will be dropped.
I'm happy, my customers are happy - they know they will only get a book through every 6 weeks and that it will be mine and i'll be doing the delivery.
We are blanket dropping the area and yes some people will bin the book - thats their choice and in the scheme of things nothing to get worked up about because its the people that do want to see it who we are looking for and we are picking up people who have never ordered from us whilst in Kleeneze ordering from us now.0
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