Being a Kleeneze Distributor

Ray-Dorco

Hi there,

I'm trying to submit a message in this thread but it's being deleted all the time. I don't have a clue what I'm doing wrong here. I'm using a few lines in durch since it's about definitions of some dutch rules. Could that be it ?

I would appreciate your feedback.

Regards,
Ray-Dorco

roaming_rhino

Well Done RAY

for putting people right about the Kleeneze business in Holland

There are a lot of people on this thread think they know everything about Kleeneze , but are not actively involved

Many are tarnishing the opportunity as a scam or a con which we both know not be correct

I have been doing Kleeneze , here in the UK for nearly 10 years now and have a group turnover of over £400,000 which earns us around £7000 - £8000 per month

many on here dont believe it , I couldnt care less .

We can prove anything to anyone

Good luck with your Kleeneze business in the Netherlands . One of our team is speaking at the dutch conference coming up soon

kleeneze.itworks

roaming_rhino wrote:

Well Done RAY

for putting people right about the Kleeneze business in Holland

There are a lot of people on this thread think they know everything about Kleeneze , but are not actively involved

Many are tarnishing the opportunity as a scam or a con which we both know not be correct

I have been doing Kleeneze , here in the UK for nearly 10 years now and have a group turnover of over £400,000 which earns us around £7000 - £8000 per month

many on here dont believe it , I couldnt care less .

We can prove anything to anyone

Good luck with your Kleeneze business in the Netherlands . One of our team is speaking at the dutch conference coming up soon

hi roamin rhino
its about time you passed by again .
keep up the good work

**bg note: advertising removed**

keep charging fellow rhinos
all the best.....
kleeneze.itworks

Lawbag_2

nice to see the link in your signature pretty much sums everything that is wrong with MLM etc...

BFG_2

To Kleeneze

If it's such a fab opportunity and you're so proud of it all, why doesn't your website mention it's name?

**Edited by BG**

Lawbag_2

ironic how a major exponent of MLM is falling foul of every "crime" accused in this thread.

bridiej

**Boardguide note **

Please could we keep on topic and not resort to personal remarks

Thanks

roaming_rhino

Lawbag

I wonder what it is you do for a living !!!

Seems you are so much an expert on MLM

If MLM is a crime as you quote - why is it so many companies around the UK and the World market thier products through this concept . Many companies are publicly listed companies

Trading on the world stock markets for years and part of The direct selling association

Explain in simple terms to me please how companies engaged in MLM are performing anything illegal as common sense says these companies would cease to exist - they would be shut down by the DTI

By the way tarnishing any opportunity in MLM with pyramid selling is the most stupid thing a person can say. Define in simple terms what pyramid selling is and I bet all the tea in china to dont get it right , then try matching it to an opportunity say like Kleeneze and try to say the kleeneze opportunity is pyramid selling

By the Way in case you dont know -Ever organisation in the World today is structured like a pyramid

The goverment / the church and the military system are 3 I could mention

SooTee_2

Thank you, Roaming Rhino.
I get fed up with these "clever clogs", who think they know all about multi-level marketing but have never been involved in it or know the camaradary and about people who are not in your group being pleased when you do well. The nearest any of these sniders come to it is to dip their toes in and withdraw them quickly - before anything happens. As they say, patience is a virtue; possess it if you can.
Big corporations, the NHS, shops and ALL traditional businesses are the guilty parties when it comes to pyramids (CEO, then Directors, then Managers, then Supervisors, then the Also-rans, then the Cooks & Cleaners). Try to get to CEO from Also-ran and see how far you get!!! :mad:

BFG_2

roaming_rhino wrote:

Explain in simple terms to me please how companies engaged in MLM are performing anything illegal as common sense says these companies would cease to exist - they would be shut down by the DTI

RR,

Leaving aside my personal views of KE, Herbalife, etc, I feel your comment quoted above is somewhat naive....the DTI in common with most gov orgs/watchdogs/quangos is relatively powerless to 'do anything' against any organisation which works with dubious or sharp practices.

What usually happens is that several years after the horse has bolted the DTI comes along and says 'you have been naughty (but also very clever!!) and your punishment is a £35 fine (unenforceable) and banning as a company director; oh and sign this form saying you promise, really promise, you won't do it again. Oh and we can't help any 'victims' get their money back.

Just coz DTI doesn't close something down, doesn't mean the business is legal, moral or decent!!!! Consider Women Empowering Women, KFC, 'wine/diamond/sherry/gold coin investment compnaies, all the money chain scams, and bolier room ops. Very few ever result in any action from DTI, and even if it does it's way too late and too ineffectual.

My comments are not meant as an attack or a judgement on KE, just that 'hasn't been shown to be illegal or closed by the DTI' is not necessarily a recommendation that a company/org/sytem is sensible for someone to invest in.

Bit like saying Al Capone was never convicted of murder, or extorion or racketeering (just tax evasion) so he was a good person to do business with; similarly Michael J was never convicted of any illegal activity so would you recommend someone sends their kids for a sleepover with him??