Being a Kleeneze Distributor

Debbie_3-2

Hi Pricefighter and roaming_rhino,

I have many contacts in many different networks - isn't that what networking is about??? and everyone has to find the right "vehicle" for them, and surely thats what is most important. We found that Kleeneze wasn't the right vehicle for us as have many other people - I hear down the grapevine and directly that we are therefore "failures", we have people from other networks in EE but their previous networks aren't saying that they are failures because they've left. I'm open minded enough that if one of my team left to join another network I would be happy for them and I would have a look as well, anybody who wouldn't do this must have "doubts "about the strength of their opportunity.

People are what is important and nobody should be so embroiled that they try and stop their team having an open look at any other opportunities that present themselves. At the end of the day we are more than happy with Everyday Essentials and a healthy bit of competition never hurt anyone, and theres room for all and it doesn't stop me having contacts and friends with other networks.

Let people take a look and make up their own minds which is "their " vehicle and if they don't choose ours thats fine. And with EE there is no hype - its all upfront from first contact, no hiding our name or people having to fill in details before they get the information. And roaming_rhino - why don't you think EE will be around for 80 years?

BFG_2

Check out http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/Forever%20Living.htm for details on all MLM's/scams/etc.

They reckon you would be better off putting money on a craps game (dice) than into the vast, vast, vast majority of the schemes (Amway, Herbalife, etc).

Interestingly they reckon Avon is the only 'genuine' one out there!!!!!

alison_b_5

stevie_b wrote:

A close family friend (who is a Kleeneze distributor), has suggested that my wife does it (I haven't the time - I have two jobs as it is)

We trust our friend, and we know he wouldn't suggest it to us if he didn't think we would benefit. He has shown us the promotional video, and it sounds good

However, the majority of the video centres on the massive earnings their top earners make. The only snippets of info I could glean from it is:

1)You have to work hard to earn the big money
2)You can boost your earnings by getting people to work for you (not quite sure how that works)

What I would appreciate would be some impartial feedback from you good people. Has anyone here got any horror stories? Or for that matter, is it a good company to distribute for? (I know their products are quite good)

What sort of questions should we be asking our friend before we consider spending the £75 for the starter pack?

What future expences can we expect? Are we expected to order the goods before receiving payment from the customer? Or do we wait for the cheque to clear before ordering?

Is there anything else we should bear in mind?

We've been in Kleeneze for 3 years and we are senoir distributors and we have met and talk with the people that do earn the big bucks. It is a business that needs work and you can earn well at it if you are prepared to put the time and effort into it. There are times when it is a nightmare, we had a large team at Christmas and again lost over half in January. but we are still in, putting the time in and our team is building again. I don't know if your friend has told you about the expansion into Europe, its a good time to join but at the end of the day I just wan't you to be prepared for the ups and downs. you do have to put the work in to it but with good support from your friend everyone can make a good income.

You will be given a credit facillity and can then order your products.

The company has been going for over 83yrs and is on the London stock exchange it is a good company and they will do they're very best to help you build a very sucessful business.

and also you can get back your investment once you have been in the business for a year( you must achieve a certain amount of points every month to qualify)

Myself and my husband know this works and we will get the break we need soon.

I do hope you join and I wish you every success and maybe one day we'll meet on the stage to celebrate our success.

alison_b_5

MoneyMachine wrote:

Kleeneze may sell there products via all these channels - but they're agents most certainly do not.

This topic is all about becoming a Kleeneze door to door agent. Kleeneze's website and shopping channel have no rlevance to this topic.

Kleeneze agents have the opportunity to sell the products from iwantoneofthose.com as we have leaflets with some of these products. And as for the sky channel. These products are offered on screen to see how popular they are ready for us to sell in the next catalogue

alison_b_5

Home shine started off as a mix of B/Ware and Klze.

It failed miserably a couple of years ago. The hard point was the way the distributors were out retailing only to find the company had gone pear shaped and didn't bother to call them The result was masses of customers placing orders only to be told that they would not get them.
Thats not the way to run a company.

Secondly, there was another outfit retailing dollies and teddies. Exactly the same situation. They folded BEFORE they told the distributors.

KZE has been around for 80 odd years. Thats FACT.
Track record speaks for itself.

My idea is this. People have the freedom to choose which company they work for.
No company within MLM, anywhere on the planet pays more than 53% of its turnover back to the distributors. KZE pays 53%.

No-one should have told you that being a distributor would make you rich. Nothing is for free. Everything takes effort and commitment.

Edison spent his life in the search of a great idea. If he had not had the gumption to stick to his commitment, how much longer would we have waited for the lightbulb ?

Heres the bottom line.

Product and company are irrelevant.
Its how the individual person works his/ her business which determins the success. The company does not.

Argueing over who is right and wrong is a waste of great minds.
Focus your selves on such things as helping your down line with their business.

EE have something that KZE does not. They have replicating websites. Its hardly surprising that they can sponsor more people.

KZE have a better payplan.

If its tit for tat, perhaps you ought to meet up on another page.

pricefighter

BFG wrote:

Check out http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/Forever%20Living.htm for details on all MLM's/scams/etc.

MLM is of course legal, where as Pyramid Selling is not.

I have noticed though that a lot of Kleeneeze recruiters hide behind Front Websites,where as Everyday Essentials recruiters tend to make it quite clear what they are up to.

John_Jackson_2

If you're prepared to work long and hard for peanuts, then MLM is for you.

Those who say they are doing brilliantly at it, well let's just say that it's all part of the recruitment plan to build the unobtainable downline.

There's some articles here: Multi Level Marketing

Unfortunately, it's often people who are desparate to earn more money that buy into these "opportunities"

Debbie_3-2

alison_b wrote:

Kleeneze agents have the opportunity to sell the products from iwantoneofthose.com as we have leaflets with some of these products. And as for the sky channel. These products are offered on screen to see how popular they are ready for us to sell in the next catalogue

I can remember being at a Kleeneze conference and being assured that there would be no way that Kleeneze were going to shift product in any other way than through the network and now we see the sky channel, web sites being bought and ok the distributors may have a small leaflet to put in with their brochures advertising a few products but people can still go online and order directly from the websites and the distributor doesn't benefit. I was looking at a Kleeneze book the other day and right inside the first page is an advert for the sky channel - people only have a certain amount of disposable income and i personally think having an advert in the catalogue encouraging them to shop and buy products which won't benefit that individual distributor is wrong.

As an Everyday Essentials distributor I can refer people to our other products online and i will benefit from those sales

Debbie_3-2

alison_b wrote:

Argueing over who is right and wrong is a waste of great minds.
Focus your selves on such things as helping your down line with their business.

EE have something that KZE does not. They have replicating websites. Its hardly surprising that they can sponsor more people.

KZE have a better payplan.

I agree arguing is a waste of energy better spent on other activities like as you say Alison helping your downline, I would be really interested to know why you think having a replicating website is the reason for sponsoring more people? I hadn't thought about it before your comment and look forward to your reply.

Alison - EE reward the individual distributors better than the Kleeneze payplan with a higher basic comm and bonuses starting much lower.

People do have to find the opportunity that suits them and I think they must have 100% belief in the company, products and opportunity, without that it can difficult to attract the type of people you want.

Quiet_One

you are better off selling toe nail clippings