A40 London New Average Speed Cameras?

TonyMMM

To give you the info, without the preaching...

For offences up to 10%+9 mph ...i.e. 53 in a 40, you should be offered a Speed Awareness Course- that will cost you about £90 but no points.

Above that you will get a Fixed penalty of 3pts + £100 ( unless the speed is much higher , then it's court).

You can only do one SAC in 3 years.

If you get 6 points in the first 2 years after passing your test, then your licence is revoked and you will have to take your test again. That is automatic, and not something in any way discretionary.

Your occupation is not relevant in any way to any of the above.

Assuming you are the registered keeper of the vehicle, then you should receive a Notice of Intended Prosecution,( which will include a request to name the driver) within 14 days.

maninthestreet

If the points are put on the OP's licence after Nov. 18th, will they avoid having to re-take their driving test?

BigBopper

maninthestreet wrote: »

If the points are put on the OP's licence after Nov. 18th, will they avoid having to re-take their driving test?

No, it's date of offence and not conviction that counts.

room512

My OH is a teaching assistant and also a musician (doesn't play gigs but produces music at home electronically) and we have to declare both jobs for him when we are insuring the car. Our insurance is expensive but at least we are being honest. It bugs me though as he doesn't use the car for anything to do with his music.
As a warning, our insurer said that companies have started to google people if they have a crash to see if they have any sidelines that they are not mentioning and look at facebook and things to wriggle out of paying. Don't know if that's true but it made me more aware of being 100% open with insurance.

bigjl

Car_54 wrote: »

In a 40 limit, you're likely to be offered a course up to 53 mph for one of the offences, so in that case it would only be one set of 3 points to worry about.

In the worst case, if you get 2 x 3 points then revocation is automatic: it's a DVLA process, not the courts. That is not the end of the world, as you can get a new provisional and pass your tests again within weeks with a bit of effort.

They are being less than generous with courses these days.

I got a £100 fine and 3 Points for doing 36 in a 30 limit.

The fact I accelerated to avoid somebody drifting into my lane from my NS with a car close to my rear bumper and my transgressions was seconds was irrelevant.

I did get a course for 54 (or was it 56) in a 50 a couple of years ago.

The fact that the "youths" doing wheelies up Old Kent Road last night without helmets and some on off road bikes got nothing pretty much sums up London roads and the U.K. In general.

The super rich avoid taxes, the long term unemployed don't pay anything and the middle bit of society that have their car in their name and whose only transgression is the occasional breaking of a speed limit get to pay loads of tax and get fines etc.

If memory serves the elevated section of the A49 used to be a 50 or 60 limit years ago.

I can't honestly see how anybody was out at risk by somebody doing 50 or 60 mph down it.

bigjl

BigBopper wrote: »

So just when is it appropriate for you to break the law?

You've admitted to it four times so far.

I exceeding speed limits around London on a daily basis for ten years, often doubling them when deemed safe and within the boundaries of a claimed exemption.

I never had a single accident.

Speed can indeed kill, but it usually only when stupidity is also deployed.

Clearly being in a hurry to drop off band equipment is probably not a good enough reason.

Not sure how well they have signed the average speed camera section of the A40 as I don't really go that way often.

I can see the point when traffic is busy

But why donInhave the suspicion that a huge number of speeding penalties dished out by speed cameras, average or otherwise, is at 3 in the morning with empty roads.

These new 20 limits are painful late at night.

You crawl along with knobs tailgating you all the time, the chances of their vehicles being registered in their names is not very big.

Less Police, more Cameras means less enforcement of the criminally intentioned.

konn1ch1ha

bigjl wrote: »

I exceeding speed limits around London on a daily basis for ten years, often doubling them when deemed safe and within the boundaries of a claimed exemption.

I never had a single accident.

Speed can indeed kill, but it usually only when stupidity is also deployed.

Clearly being in a hurry to drop off band equipment is probably not a good enough reason.

Not sure how well they have signed the average speed camera section of the A40 as I don't really go that way often.

I can see the point when traffic is busy

But why donInhave the suspicion that a huge number of speeding penalties dished out by speed cameras, average or otherwise, is at 3 in the morning with empty roads.

These new 20 limits are painful late at night.

You crawl along with knobs tailgating you all the time, the chances of their vehicles being registered in their names is not very big.

Less Police, more Cameras means less enforcement of the criminally intentioned.

This is very relevant. I completely agree with what you say about less police, more cameras thing. I don't drive like a maniac at 1pm and abide by the rules of road, as it should be, but at 2am, it's a little different. I have no intention of being a criminal on the road, or in general.

I wasn't in a hurry to get to a gig, I was in a hurry to get home!

BigBopper

bigjl wrote: »

I exceeding speed limits around London on a daily basis for ten years, often doubling them when deemed safe and within the boundaries of a claimed exemption.

I never had a single accident.

Speed can indeed kill, but it usually only when stupidity is also deployed.

Clearly being in a hurry to drop off band equipment is probably not a good enough reason.

Not sure how well they have signed the average speed camera section of the A40 as I don't really go that way often.

I can see the point when traffic is busy

But why donInhave the suspicion that a huge number of speeding penalties dished out by speed cameras, average or otherwise, is at 3 in the morning with empty roads.

These new 20 limits are painful late at night.

You crawl along with knobs tailgating you all the time, the chances of their vehicles being registered in their names is not very big.

Less Police, more Cameras means less enforcement of the criminally intentioned.

Yes, you had an exemption and insurance unlike the op.

BigBopper

konn1ch1ha wrote: »

This is very relevant. I completely agree with what you say about less police, more cameras thing. I don't drive like a maniac at 1pm and abide by the rules of road, as it should be, but at 2am, it's a little different. I have no intention of being a criminal on the road, or in general.

I wasn't in a hurry to get to a gig, I was in a hurry to get home!

Your posting history says otherwise.

konn1ch1ha wrote: »

Hey all,

So this evening, I was returning home from work, and I was going along a stretch of road that is 30mph limit but it's a flyover dual carriageway and everyone does 40/50mph (no excuses, no lies, I was speeding, too). But someone, I think which was an undercover motorcyclist, comes beside of me and looks into my car and at me. By this time, I think he's a copper so I reduce to about about 35mph and then he follows me for a few minutes along the same road, I take a left to go home and then we part. He didn't pull me or anything but he did follow me and and take a good look at me and my car. Was he taking details of the car, reg plate etc? Do police motorcyclists have speed cameras? Should I expect a fine through the door?

Any info would be appreciated?

How was the Merc you went to look at yesterday?

bigjl

BigBopper wrote: »

Yes, you had an exemption and insurance unlike the op.

True, and Inwoild have had to justify any claimed exemption in court if needed.

I was just trying to disprove the new age speed kills ideology that is prevalent these days.

The Met for example have to explain why they have been caught by a speed camera at excess of 20mph over a posted limit, caveat is that info is 4yrs old.

As a result the area car drivers have to slow for speed cameras when in a pursuit.

Now with the Met decision not to chase motorcyclist if they have no helmet has caused a rise in lawlessness. With riders knowing any pursuit will be called off if they either have no helmet or take their helmet off and wave it at the Coppers.

But the Met will happily serve you a NIP for doing 37 in a 30 a 04:00 on a Sunday morning when riding a fully insured motorbike whilst wearing full protective gear and high vis.

Honestly you have to laugh or you would cry.