National lottery changing this Saturday

JReacher1

skintpaul wrote: »

My great lotto conspiracy theory- all 'lucky dip' ticket buyers get the SAME numbers..

We can't have p lebs winning loads of cash, now can we?!:eek:

Why don't you buy two lucky dips and see what happens

cajef

earlywormgetsthebird wrote: »

Well, here's another 'Bye bye UK Lottery'. It was fun at times. But you've just lost yet another customer.

Same here, first the increase from £1 to £2 a line, now this and they try to make it look as though it is something better, we used to do two days a week but that reduced to one with the £1 increase so we didn't pay any more, now it has gone to none.

The-Truth

Edwood_Woodwood wrote: »

It's a mugs game.

I can imagine the 4000+ people who have became a National Lottery millionaire since it began probably disagree with you!

The-Truth

JReacher1 wrote: »

Derren Brown managed to predict the numbers by using the "wisdom of crowds" phenomenon. Therefore if people actually try to win the jackpot it is quite easy to do.

You cannot predict what is down to only chance.

skintpaul

I got £8 on Friday's Euro draw, so nuh nuh nuh!

BlueEyedGirl

I didn't win tonight's draw... no big mansion for me then! :shocked:

MarkBargain

Use www.searchlotto.co.uk rather than Google and play the National Lottery for free. They give you a ticket shared with 19 other people for every 25 valid searches. I have been playing a few weeks and have won £2.50 so far (1/20th of the prize of 3 balls twice under the old system)

shaun_from_Africa

JReacher1 wrote: »

Derren Brown managed to predict the numbers by using the "wisdom of crowds" phenomenon. Therefore if people actually try to win the jackpot it is quite easy to do.

I hope that is a tongue in cheek comment and that you don't actually believe it. (If you do, I have a big bag of magic beans you might like to buy)

For the WOC theory to have any chance of working, the people involved must each have some insight or knowledge about the subject whose outcome they are trying to predict.
Unless they are all psychic, how can they possibly have any knowledge about a totally random draw where previous draws can have no influence on future ones.

50 meteorologists trying to predict what the weather may be the following week or 50 financial experts attempting to guess what the FTSE will close at have a reasonable chance of being close or even totally correct but 50 people trying to predict a totally random event? not a chance in hell.

chrispy1

So in the last year the price has doubled and you have less chance of winning. Why would any one do it?:huh:
How much is Camelot making out of this? Maybe should be renamed to Scamalot

daytona0

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

For the WOC theory to have any chance of working, the people involved must each have some insight or knowledge about the subject whose outcome they are trying to predict.
Unless they are all psychic, how can they possibly have any knowledge about a totally random draw where previous draws can have no influence on future ones.

50 meteorologists trying to predict what the weather may be the following week or 50 financial experts attempting to guess what the FTSE will close at have a reasonable chance of being close or even totally correct but 50 people trying to predict a totally random event? not a chance in hell.

You'll first need to show that the National Lottery is a "totally random draw"....... I'd argue that it is a "pseudo random draw" personally.



The WOC theory could easily work with the National Lottery, but only for variables which would affect the final outcome. One example being 'how long will it be between the initial release until the first ball coming out?'. That variable is something we do not know until the draw has taken place, but can be predicted both through WOC and using data on previous draws.

The problem is that modeling the draw would be insanely complex and with a high level of error. It is THEORETICALLY possible to model the draw and IMPROVE your chances of winning but it would require a lot of computing resources and fractional calculations. Good old chaos theory.

Well beyond our (50 experts) grasp, but potentially not outside the realm of mathematics...