E.ON uSwitch Fixed 1 Collective Oct 15

Pincher

So the game has moved on.

To move from one cheap E.On tariff to the next, you need to do so via time limited collective switch promotions through an external agency. The rates are quite competitive against Scottish Power one year fixes, provided you keep up with the collective switches. In fact, if you ignore the exit penalty and get cashback, it's cheaper than SP.

Perverse or not, I prefer to just move from tariff to tariff within Scottish Power. Nothing cheaper than Online Fix March 2016 has come yet, but if it did, I just hop over, easy peasy.

redux

Pincher wrote: »

Perverse or not, I prefer to just move from tariff to tariff within Scottish Power. Nothing cheaper than Online Fix March 2016 has come yet, but if it did, I just hop over, easy peasy.

Maybe you missed a post from me on another thread recently.

Scottish Power's October 2016 launched a week ago and is worth considering. Cheaper in this area than that March one, £7 more than the recent CEC E.on, and still without exit fee.

Pincher

redux wrote: »

Maybe you missed a post from me on another thread recently.

Scottish Power's October 2016 launched a week ago and is worth considering. Cheaper in this area than that March one, £7 more than the recent CEC E.on, and still without exit fee.

Sneaky b_ggers. I checked only a few days ago, probably 29th September.

Had some visitors, had my period, my shoes hurt, excusese, excuses.

Pincher

SP Online Fixed Price Energy October 2016, for my post code:

Gas 2.802p (3.000p March 2016) SC 20.549p per day

Electricity 10.860p (10.476p March 2016) SC 20.549p per day

Gas DOWN, Electricity UP.

Still no exit penalty.

They are so cunning.

Yes, I will save on gas over the winter.
The trap is, I hardly ever use the tumble dryer in summer, but do use it a lot over winter.

Can't go back to the March 2016 fix once I switch, so probably should mull it over a bit first.

redux

Tumble dryer can't be a vast difference, say 20 to 60 units a month at 0.4p. Or do you own horses and wash blankets?

You're in a slightly cheaper area than me. Here gas down 7.3% elect up 5.5%.

For a year predictions are £16 more electricity £27 less on gas.

I take the view that most of the gas is in the winter, but only half the electricity, so it's likely to be £2 to £3 cheaper a month until March.

And it hedges by adding 7 months to the expiry, and let's see what happens in the next few months.

If we remember what happened from a year ago, MSE CEC launched a big switch to E.on with a chunky exit fee, then rival prices dropped by about £150 a year 3 to 5 months later ...

I think it's possible to view exit fees in a time of falling prices as at best under-confident and at worst bordering on cynical, and thus also as a corollary perhaps the presence of exit fees might be a predictor where they think tariffs are going next.

Pincher

I have switched to October 2016.

I should save more on gas than the extra I pay for electricity.
No exit penalty, so no real downside if prices keep falling.

2.8p for gas, good old days are back.
Notch it up to 21 degrees C, time to celebrate. :beer:

Shrimply

Pincher wrote: »

Notch it up to 21 degrees C, time to celebrate. :beer:

I know this was kindof said tongue in cheek, but it is exactly the attitude that means reduced energy costs aren't really a good thing in my opinion. It's sad to say but the only truly effective way of reducing energy usage, generally, is to keep prices high

macman

Pincher, I have a cunning plan for you-why not invest in a gas powered tumble drier (White Knight make them)?

Pincher

macman wrote: »

Pincher, I have a cunning plan for you-why not invest in a gas powered tumble drier (White Knight make them)?

Great minds think alike.

In fact, for the last major house refurbishment, I was agonising over this one:

http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/LPG_Gas_Tumble_Dryers.html

In the end, decided against it, and went for a vented Miele sensor dryer.

Replaced a cooker recently, the delivery people are very happy to dispose of the old one, but wouldn't unplug the gas. I am not allowed to plug the new one in, and Gas Safe engineers want £100+ just to plug it in, for "installation". Most didn't even want to come, not worth their bother to turn up!

Same issues with the gas dryer, which should get an annual gas safety check, in case of gas leak, as well, so any savings are just out of the window.

The current Miele dryer is about ten years old, and I love it, but the next one will be a heat pump dryer.

http://www.heatpumpdryers.com/#top


http://www.johnlewis.com/miele-tmb-340-wp-freestanding-heat-pump-condenser-tumble-dryer-8kg-load-a-energy-rating-white/p1869620

Hopefully, the price will drop by the time the current Miele retires.

Pincher

Shrimply wrote: »

I know this was kindof said tongue in cheek, but it is exactly the attitude that means reduced energy costs aren't really a good thing in my opinion. It's sad to say but the only truly effective way of reducing energy usage, generally, is to keep prices high

So Self-flagellation is not dead.

I have always wondered where did they get hair shirts from?
Somebody had to weave them. Niche market, or global phenomenon waiting to happen?

Register https://www.CiliceRUs.com quick.

I am getting to the age where I begin to feel the cold.
Didn't believe my dad before.