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UK Parking Patrol Office Ltd Newcastle Airport

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  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    POPLA have distanced themselves from this because UKPPO are labouring under the impression that their parking tickets are 'penalties', despite the fact that the bylaws don't exist, and UKPPO have no other statutory authority. POPLA don't do 'penalties'.

    These tickets are actually speculative invoices - same as other PPC tickets, nothing more, but they would so love it if the DVLA and BPA would believe that these WERE actually penalties.

    Good luck with that, lads.
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • Hello Again

    Over a week now and no more contact from BPA of DVLA.

    I have sent a file to the IOC and received confirmation they are looking at it.

    My MP has been contacted again to follow up her promise to contact UKPPO but nothing yet.

    Its a waiting game eh?
    keithlml
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    Yep, the DVLA tell me they are looking into this matter.
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  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    This excuse will need quite a bit of creativity! It will take time.
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • keithlml
    keithlml Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Hello Again

    I got this reply from the BPA this morning ?

    "Dear Mr ///////////"

    I have reviewed the e-mail trail in this case and note all the relevant issues that have been raised. The one that is left is the issue of whether or not UKPP are acting under the byelaws of Newcastle Airport.

    I can confirm that this is the case, this issue has been raised in previous complaints by other motorists, and the response is the same.

    The parking operator has a current contract with the Airport to manage the parking/drop off areas and issue Penalty Notices under the Airport Byelaws.

    See copy of Byelaws attached.

    There has been no breach of our Code of Practice, and I am closing this case.

    Regards

    Peter

    Peter Beasley
    Compliance Manager
    British Parking Association
    Tel: ///////////////////
    Fax: ///////////////////
    Email: Peter.////////////////////////////////
    Web: /////////////////////////////////////////////

    The copy of the bye laws attached contain section 6 (as I am sure you are aware ) :-

    6. PROHIBITED ACTS ON PRIVATE AIRPORT ROADS ETC.
    Specifically :-
    6.2 Parking in Time restricted Areas
    Leave or park a vehicle or cause it to wait for a period in excess of the permitted time
    in an area where the period of waiting is restricted by notice.
    6.3 Parking in Prohibited Areas
    Wait in, leave or park a vehicle where waiting or parking is prohibited by notice.

    The vehicle was not left or parked and the driver did not wait or leave the vehicle (except for a period shown in two photographs on the PCN 2 seconds apart ? A pick up.

    Can I now re appeal to BPA as this email states case closed?
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,081 Forumite
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    Yup, make them re-open it. Nothing in the attached byelaws allows them to issue penalties or gain access to the DVLA.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,843 Forumite
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    @OP - if you've not already seen this, the thread linked below was opened yesterday. You may want to bookmark it to check its progress.

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=102097&st=0&#entry1119371
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    Do their attached bylaws look like they've been signed off?
    Je Suis Cecil.
  • Hello
    below I have pasted the last page from bye laws sent to me this morning, no signature?

    12 REVOCATION OF BYELAWS
    The Newcastle Airport Byelaws 1991 are revoked.
    The COMMON SEAL of
    NEWCASTLE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT LIMITED
    Affixed is authenticated by:
    Director:
    Secretary:
    These byelaws are confirmed by the Secretary of State for Transport and shall come into
    force on 2009.
    Signed By
    …………………………………………………………….
    John Parkinson
    Head of Airports Policy Division by Authority of the Secretary of State
  • ManxRed
    ManxRed Posts: 3,530 Forumite
    So, unless they can provide a signed copy, then these bylaws don't apply.
    Je Suis Cecil.
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