Car with a 300 mile range which can recharge to 80% in 15 mins

Generali

AnotherJoe wrote: »

My car has a 350 mile range and can be recharged to 100% in less than 5 minutes

Unfortunately it also produces vast amounts of CO2 and assorted other nasties that aren't very nice for your fellow man.

AnotherJoe

Generali wrote: »

Unfortunately it also produces vast amounts of CO2 and assorted other nasties that aren't very nice for your fellow man.

unfortunately so does most of the electricity currently produced to charge cars. Hopefully that will change over time.

I'd like to see some stick as well as carrot. Start with getting rid of diesel, first step in that higher taxes increasing over time (let's not forget it was the green lobby who went for diesel in the first place because of lowered CO2, talk about an own goal) , start by getting rid of them in cities where they produce most of the pollution,then phase out petrol cars in cities, with over certain sized engines, and in the meantime ever increasing taxes on first diesel and then petrol used to subside electric cars both with direct subsidies and rolling out charging stations.

ruggedtoast

Generali wrote: »

Unfortunately it also produces vast amounts of CO2 and assorted other nasties that aren't very nice for your fellow man.

Apparently most of it floats over to Australia so it's not like it affects civilisation.

kabayiri

I wouldn't worry about range personally.

Given the growth in population in the likes of SE, future young kids will sit at the feet of grandpa, and listen in wonder when he tells miraculous stories...like the day he managed to travel "80 miles by road in a single day".

tommysaver

AnotherJoe wrote: »

My car has a 350 mile range and can be recharged to 100% in less than 5 minutes

Is that all?

Mine has a range of just over 700+ miles if driven sensibly. 63 litre tank of derv!

Not bad for an 11 year old 3 litre turbo diesel of German vintage.

Electric cars are nothing but a joke at the present time. Unless of course you need one to pop to the shops and back, want to pay obscenely over the odds for technology which will be outdated and worth nothing in 5 years time....

michaels

tommysaver wrote: »

Is that all?

Mine has a range of just over 700+ miles if driven sensibly. 63 litre tank of derv!

Not bad for an 11 year old 3 litre turbo diesel of German vintage.

Electric cars are nothing but a joke at the present time. Unless of course you need one to pop to the shops and back, want to pay obscenely over the odds for technology which will be outdated and worth nothing in 5 years time....

My EV costs 130 a month all in for 2 years and most of the fuel is free from my solar panels and yes we only use it for the school run and popping to the shops but it a lot cheaper than running an old-fashioned ice vehicle.

Downside is you really notice how smelly and noisy every other car on the road is even when travelling in them.

I hope you are not killing too many people (including yourself) with the NO and particulates emited by your VW diesel.

tommysaver

michaels wrote: »

My EV costs 130 a month all in for 2 years and most of the fuel is free from my solar panels and yes we only use it for the school run and popping to the shops but it a lot cheaper than running an old-fashioned ice vehicle.

Downside is you really notice how smelly and noisy every other car on the road is even when travelling in them.

I hope you are not killing too many people (including yourself) with the NO and particulates emited by your VW diesel.

So... your paying £3120 for 2 years of... Use?

Then hand it back with nothing to show for it?


I struggle to see how it's a lot cheaper to run than a say £600 12 month MOT'd runabout e.g. Saxo.

I wouldn't dare drive such an underspec'd such thing as a VW.... It's a BMW.

& yes, I make sure to cover complete imbeciles on the roads with smoke. Usually the likes of Hyandai i10 & gang being driven by dribblers so horrifically that I overtake with my foot flat to the floor - so they enjoy my black sooty clouds.


Back ontopic. You could buy a car for £1000. Do your normal popping to the shops and schoolrun, oh, and everything else inbetween. Use it for 2 years. Then sell it for say at worst £500, and it would still probably work out cheaper.

I do around 1200-2000 miles per month and my fuel costs are around £120 - £180 a month..

Yet I can still sell my car no problem for what it's worth and near what I bought it for!

kabayiri

michaels wrote: »

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I hope you are not killing too many people (including yourself) with the NO and particulates emited by your VW diesel.

Look for the Lichen apparently, on the pavements or walls alongside the roads you walk along, in your neighbourhood.

It seems Lichen likes clean air, which diesel does not provide.

There is lichen on the pavement on our road, but it does see very few cars.

spadoosh

tommysaver wrote: »

So... your paying £3120 for 2 years of... Use?

Then hand it back with nothing to show for it?


I struggle to see how it's a lot cheaper to run than a say £600 12 month MOT'd runabout e.g. Saxo.

I wouldn't dare drive such an underspec'd such thing as a VW.... It's a BMW.

& yes, I make sure to cover complete imbeciles on the roads with smoke. Usually the likes of Hyandai i10 & gang being driven by dribblers so horrifically that I overtake with my foot flat to the floor - so they enjoy my black sooty clouds.


Back ontopic. You could buy a car for £1000. Do your normal popping to the shops and schoolrun, oh, and everything else inbetween. Use it for 2 years. Then sell it for say at worst £500, and it would still probably work out cheaper.

I do around 1200-2000 miles per month and my fuel costs are around £120 - £180 a month..

Yet I can still sell my car no problem for what it's worth and near what I bought it for!

Cool story, you can buy a bike for the same price that you spend on fuel in a month and manage just as many miles in said month. And you would have hench legs to boot.

Choices.

Sounds exactly like every other car lease deal.

spadoosh

Generali wrote: »

Not for sale though.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/porsche-unveils-prototype-battery-driven-sports-car-1442252975

An interesting point is made by Porsche:



My bold.

So the question remains; assuming that electric cars are made in volume will the car or the battery be commoditised (or both!)?

The bit that i get from this is that their biggest concern is they can build anengine and anyone could copy it and make it cheaper.

Sounds like they are wanting to find a way to patent a motor (and or batteries).

Personally think it would be extremely difficult to do on both.

Batteries are slowly moving forward and any significant step couldnt really be held back by a car manufacture wanting to copyright it, too many widespread applications to do so.

The motor is in essence ancient technology, porsche would struggle to come up with something that is different enough as to protects itself.


Any motor used in an EV can be used for other purposes and any battery in an EV can be used for other purposes. Whilst optimised for cars (efficiency with rpm's and storage/weight/output with batteries) a battery is a battery and a motor is a motor.