Deadline from Debt collectors approaching

Palec

I do understand a lot and learn every day, too, just do not like dodgy people...
Thank you for advice and help

Palec

Well let's be honest, I overstayed 8 minutes because of reason, mitigating factors, purchased another ticket and returning to car saw penalty, wanted to come to conclusion and pay some money, just feel £60, £100 or £160 is over the top...
As for breach of Code as for conduct with BPA, well what it could be?

Palec

BPA state this : We advise in Section 19.5 that we would not expect the full amount of the charge (when issued) to exceed £100 and that a 40% reduction be offered for payment made within 14 days. This point of the code does not state different times and what reasonable amount would be for reasonable time between purchasing one ticket and extension...
I was reading about 10 minutes grace period when PCN issued by councils, was this legalised and is nowadays in place?
Maybe something similar would be good to be legalised with private ones, what do you think?

ampersand

palec - you must switch this around in your head.

You are not having to satisfy the bpa. You are not in conflict or dispute with them.
They have no direct connection with your parking event or any decision concerning it.

As freddy has emphasised, only VALID LBC or VALID Court papers mean a ppc is aiming to take you to Court.

You come straight here if this happens.
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In the meantime, this was the section of the bpa's Code of Practice which was being referred to by Slithy Tove at the beginning of last year[referring back to your #19]

http://www.britishparking.co.uk/News/good-car-parking-practice-includes-grace-periods

Back then, a complaint to Steve Clark would have highlighted Premier's failure to mitigate their loss[point 1] and demonstrate good practice re: a grace period[point 2] It could also have been part of your popla appeal.

“An observation period is the time when an enforcement officer should be able to determine what the motorist intends to do once in the car park. The BPA’s guidance specifically says that there must be sufficient time for the motorist to park their car, observe the signs, decide whether they want to comply with the operator’s conditions and either drive away or pay for a ticket,” he explains.
“No time limit is specified. This is because it might take one person five minutes, but another person 10 minutes depending on various factors, not limited to disability.”

This is the applicable wording from Version 3 which applied at the time your popla appeal was adjudicated. It was written in August 2013 and stayed live until February 2014, when version 4 came into force.

Version 4 is still current. The grace period wording is there, too, which could be a factor if this nonsense ends up in Court. Mention of illness then would be acceptable. But nothing like this stage has been reached yet. It may never happen.

You must keep all your papers together safely in case it does rear up at some future point.

We appreciate that you are working hard at building your knowledge and understanding.

If freddy thinks I am making things worse, I'll delete this.

enfield_freddy

no , continue , I agree with you

Palec

Thank you for your comments.

I was considering before I came here to write to PPS not Debt collectors with some last offer to come to reasonable end of this dispute for my 8 minutes, as have not much time to spend on these things because of my work, but as they refused my £10 for £0.12 I would not know how much to pay, definitely was not planning to pay more than 50% of initial penalty of £60 in the first place anyway...

Apologies, I am learning and fighting, maybe not exactly as I should, but done it to the best of my foreign knowledge :-).

Palec

What I was thinking to do is to come to reasonable conclusion as for money, but when they refused £10 after Popla requesting £100, am not sure what amount would make them happy...

The landowner changed where I got the ticket, does it matter?

ampersand

The landowner at the time of the ticket was the relevant entity.

Don't offer them anything. Don't write any more.

Now, make a bedtime drink and stir #20 in thoroughly. Drink it right down, okay?
-:)

enfield_freddy

why should they take £10 or £30 now? , due to not sending in a proper appeal to POPLa , that stage has gone.


you have no option but to pay the amount required before court OR go to court and FIGHT it properly


in your original posting (last year) you asked for help , you were given it , a sensible person would have posted up a copy of there appeal to POPLa ,and ask for help to fine tune it , you did not ! , you just entered an appeal that was 99% mitigation , and lost.


forget the £10 or £30 stage WHEN you get court papers come back and ASK FOR HELP writing an appeal.

ampersand

palec, delete that #31 now, please.

Keep a record for yourself but not here. Any Parking pms to me are blocked, so I don't see them.

Time to stop now palec - won't say it again.

I suspect I'm speaking for freddy here too - we like your earnest endeavour, can see you are honest, but nothing more needs doing[freddy quote]

WHEN you get court papers come back and ASK FOR HELP writing an appeal.

Nothing else, okay?