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Corbynomics: A Dystopia
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2010 was in the middle of a recession so I guess a good starting point to judge a 'rapidly' rising wage.
I can go back further if you like, but it was well above inflation right through 200x too.Any in the longer term, engineering salaries rising faster than the norm must be a good thing for the future of the country and the future of engineering.
It's a sign that we're not educating enough and that without EU immigration we'd be in *real* trouble. Yes, it should help to pull more into STEM, but not enough and not quickly enough.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
setmefree2 wrote: »Whether you want to remain or leave - it's right that we have a referendum - I thought Corbyn's Labour was all for increased democracy???
I actually agree we should have a referendum on this one, its something too many people feel too strongly about to just leave up to the politicians anymore.
That said I have my doubts as to how much anyone will really learn about the real +'s and -'s of staying or leaving during the campaign, I suspect it will be as superficial as these things usually are.0 -
Originally Posted by Moby
He'll have to go you know if he loses the referendum.
Cameron is leaving by 2020 anyway.
Anyway I think he's a playing an astute hand. As what we are now seeing is not a unified response from other member states. But an overriding self interest.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »I can go back further if you like, but it was well above inflation right through 200x too.
It's a sign that we're not educating enough and that without EU immigration we'd be in *real* trouble. Yes, it should help to pull more into STEM, but not enough and not quickly enough.
it would seem to me to be a sign that immigration has replaced the need for home grown engineers.
why bother to educate if you have a stream of cheap labour.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »
This paper addresses the fiscal effect of immigration is very limited and narrow terms
Unless I misunderstand, the underlying paper needs to be purchased so I can't see the assumptions etc.
I am concerned whether, overall, we are better of with an ever increasing population or not.
'Better off' doesn't mean the balance of taxation to me, but has both financial and quality of life considerations.
The fact that immigrants pay taxes doesn't compensate for the low housing standards, overcrowding on transport system etc0 -
it would seem to me to be a sign that immigration has replaced the need for home grown engineers.
We need all the home grown engineers we can get, but we can't get enough. Ditto doctors, nurses and many other professions.
Other countries do a *much* better job of education than we do, and yes we should up our game, but there is only so much employers can do. We help design courses and syllabuses of universities, run university recruitment schemes, take placement students, and much more, but still we struggle.why bother to educate if you have a stream of cheap labour.
I've already addressed the "cheap" aspect and the figures don't back up immigrants being in lower paid jobs.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »We need all the home grown engineers we can get, but we can't get enough. Ditto doctors, nurses and many other professions.
Other countries do a *much* better job of education than we do, and yes we should up our game, but there is only so much employers can do. We help design courses and syllabuses of universities, run university recruitment schemes, take placement students, and much more, but still we struggle.
I've already addressed the "cheap" aspect and the figures don't back up immigrants being in lower paid jobs.
as I've said I have no problem with importing people we need.
We don't need 600,000 per annum
Given the overall level of general wage inflation, we clearly do not have a labour shortage even if we do have a shortage of some specific skills0 -
we clearly do not have a labour shortage
Unemployment is down to around 5% and most of those will be a waste of fresh air worth only a fraction of NMW so effectively unemployable in the UK.even if we do have a shortage of some specific skills
Blimey, light at the end of the tunnel!
I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
The fact that immigrants pay taxes doesn't compensate for the low housing standards, overcrowding on transport system etc
How dare they come here, paying our taxes, caring for our sick, going to our cinemas, looking after our teeth, eating our women, sleeping with our food!
Yes, there will be growing pains, but most areas/cities are handling them very well.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0
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