Huge Fine For Minor Offence

dannyrst

Car_54 wrote: »

"... no person shall cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles. " [The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002, Schedule 19(7(1))]. it goes on to give an exemption for turning right.

So crawling is allowed. Nice one.

ChumLee

dannyrst wrote: »

So crawling is allowed. Nice one.

Why would you need to crawl?

Because your exit isn't clear so if you had to stop offence complete.

dannyrst

ChumLee wrote: »

Why would you need to crawl?

Because your exit isn't clear so if you had to stop offence complete.

But if you accidentally enter a box and then realise straight away, you can just crawl at 1-2mph without breaking the law.

ChumLee

dannyrst wrote: »

But if you accidentally enter a box and then realise straight away, you can just crawl at 1-2mph without breaking the law.

Then you're not looking.

thescouselander

Car_54 wrote: »

"... no person shall cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles. " [The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002, Schedule 19(7(1))]. it goes on to give an exemption for turning right.

So it is allowed to stop in the box for other reasons as long as the exit to the box is not blocked by other vehicles?

bod1467

dannyrst wrote: »

But if you accidentally enter a box and then realise straight away, you can just crawl at 1-2mph without breaking the law.

.... and hope the exit clears before having to stop. (The same thought had crossed my mind reading this thread. Not that I condone such actions - I'm a firm believer in treating yellow box junctions correctly).

The problem may be the cameras monitoring the junction may not detect the very slow movement and assume you've stopped. The problem then would be proving you were moving.

dannyrst

ChumLee wrote: »

Then you're not looking.

Correct, but I'm not getting fined.

Not that they have that sort of technology where I live.

dannyrst

bod1467 wrote: »

.... and hope the exit clears before having to stop. (The same thought had crossed my mind reading this thread. Not that I condone such actions - I'm a firm believer in treating yellow box junctions correctly).

The problem may be the cameras monitoring the junction may not detect the very slow movement and assume you've stopped. The problem then would be proving you were moving.

Would they not need to prove that I wasn't moving? Oh dear. I think I've started something.

I normally treat a yellow box as do not enter unless you are 100% sure you can get out of the other end. Just the very few occasions when you don't realise.

ChumLee

dannyrst wrote: »

Would they not need to prove that I wasn't moving? Oh dear. I think I've started something.

I normally treat a yellow box as do not enter unless you are 100% sure you can get out of the other end. Just the very few occasions when you don't realise.

Yes they would and the proximity of your vehicle to the yellow lines would clearly show movement.

Browntoa

most of the yellow box cameras in London are manuallly operated by the camera operators when they spot a vehicle in the zone