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CSA and working nights.

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  • pol-zeath
    pol-zeath Posts: 110 Forumite
    Firstly your children are old enough to see themselves off to school, or make use of the school breakfast club

    Secondly you are obviously a worker, all credit to you, and with a good work history behind you, it's not difficult to get another job.

    Your children really do appear to be having a crap deal all round. Mum feeds them tinned curry and seems to not have any interest in them. Being turned out of their beds at what 5.30am 5 mornings a week? Both of you squabbling over who is getting the money to support them. The whole situation seem totally uncaring for their emotional and physical welfare
  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    brilliant, now find me a day job that i can do and also do the school run!!!
    yea should be easy :o



    because their mum lives out of town so i pick them up on the way home from work.
    i admit its not an ideal situation and oh my god!!!
    as if finding a job is that simple, especially one that i can still be there for my kids lol.

    I actually think it's fab that you and the ex do this so well done from me but either split the benefits or deduct from the debt.
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  • pol-zeath wrote: »
    Firstly your children are old enough to see themselves off to school, or make use of the school breakfast club
    their not old enough to make the 6 mile trek from their mums to school though.
    pol-zeath wrote: »

    Secondly you are obviously a worker, all credit to you, and with a good work history behind you, it's not difficult to get another job.

    ok so for example i look for other work, its going to have to be an 8.30 start and a 3.30 finish, if i could find a job with those hours i bet the pay will be so bad that i would end up losing the house cos im pretty sure tax credits wont make up the difference.
  • jetplane
    jetplane Posts: 1,615 Forumite
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    To go back to your original question the CSA treat the person with the child benefits and tax credits as PWC. If you asked for maintenance they would deduct the overnights and therefore reduce any payment to a negligible amount and you would be charged a fee. Much like tax credits the CSA are not set up to deal with unusual situations.

    Has this arrangement been this way for a year or is it recent? To play devils advocate your ex is in a position where she could make a claim for CB & CTC, if you disputed this then HMRC would make a decision. Her argument would be that the children live with her, you pick them up each morning, give them breakfast and take them to school. You have them 3 nights a fortnight and a further twice a week for tea.

    If the debt is in joint names she is jointly liable, no matter who has the possessions, which means if one of you doesn't pay the creditors can chase either or both of you. If she works for her partner who knows what the accounts list her wages at.

    If it has worked well so far why the sudden change in her offer of payment? Has something changed, have you asked her why?
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  • densol_2
    densol_2 Posts: 1,189 Forumite
    OP - I feel for you especially as a man ( Im a woman and have seen many men get a raw deal )

    Can you not get a day job, get child tax credits based on day time income and definitely be the parent with care. This situation is bad for the kiddies ( going to mums in eve and up at 6am ) .... If you dont change this situation soon - they may be resident with their mother. Im a single mum and up to 2014 always the bread winner always working etc .... I fully appreciate how hard this is for you but there is always a way. Kids are more important than debts unless they are secured ( and could lose house ) - maybe speak to CAB - re all possible benefits and dealing with those debts ?
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  • pol-zeath wrote: »
    Your children really do appear to be having a crap deal all round. Mum feeds them tinned curry and seems to not have any interest in them. Being turned out of their beds at what 5.30am 5 mornings a week? Both of you squabbling over who is getting the money to support them. The whole situation seem totally uncaring for their emotional and physical welfare

    we don't squabble in front of them.
    people split up and i like to think we have adapted pretty well, the kids are not emotional wrecks in fact their doing very well given the circumstances.
  • jetplane wrote: »

    If it has worked well so far why the sudden change in her offer of payment? Has something changed, have you asked her why?

    dunno, i guess its her time of month :rotfl:
  • Spendless
    Spendless Posts: 24,826 Forumite
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    their not old enough to make the 6 mile trek from their mums to school though.
    Why? What would the route consist of doing?

    Is it that your house is closer to their school, so they are setting off/ coming back from there?
  • Spendless wrote: »
    Why? What would the route consist of doing?

    Is it that your house is closer to their school, so they are setting off/ coming back from there?
    yea, my house is just up the road from the school.
    and cmon what sort of parent make there kids walk 6 maybe 7 miles to school?? especially at 11 years old!!
  • You expect children to walk 2-3 hours to school?

    and because the school day starts at 8.15 they would probably have to get up earlier lol
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