CSA and working nights.

davesbigsack

hi guys
2 me and my ex have been split up nearly a year now and things have been going ok.
she left me with debts but has been paying me half towards them, regarding the kids, she has them 2 Saturday nights a month and for tea 3 nights a week.
we have pretty much shared the load regarding the little ones.
now, as i work nights she has to have them sleep at hers 5 nights a week so according to the csa website the kids are classed as living with her??
even though their living here (hope this makes sense)
she is now threatening to stop paying me her half of our debts, now would the csa take into account that i work nights if i was to try and go to them for some money?
many thanks.

tomtontom

Sounds to me like they are living with her. How much time do they spend at yours?

DUTR

davesbigsack wrote: »

hi guys
2 me and my ex have been split up nearly a year now and things have been going ok.
she left me with debts but has been paying me half towards them, regarding the kids, she has them 2 Saturday nights a month and for tea 3 nights a week.
we have pretty much shared the load regarding the little ones.
now, as i work nights she has to have them sleep at hers 5 nights a week so according to the csa website the kids are classed as living with her??
even though their living here (hope this makes sense)
she is now threatening to stop paying me her half of our debts, now would the csa take into account that i work nights if i was to try and go to them for some money?
many thanks.

Who gets the child benefits? That usually determines the PWC.

swingaloo

If you are working nights then you must be sleeping during the day so in reality you have shared care if they are sleeping at hers. You have them in the day, she has them at night. If things are going well, as you say, why is there a need for either of you to claim from the other?

davesbigsack

tomtontom wrote: »

Sounds to me like they are living with her. How much time do they spend at yours?

they go to hers about an hour or 2 before bed and i pick em up in the morning.

DUTR wrote: »

Who gets the child benefits? That usually determines the PWC.

i do.

swingaloo wrote: »

If things are going well, as you say, why is there a need for either of you to claim from the other?

because shes threatening to stop paying me half of her debts.

swingaloo

How old are the children? Are they at school? Looks like pretty much a shared thing timewise, you must both be caring for them around 12 hours a day.


I would be careful. if you claim from her she may well turn round and say she wont have them at night. Much better to try to keep things amicable.

DUTR

davesbigsack wrote: »

they go to hers about an hour or 2 before bed and i pick em up in the morning.


i do.


because shes threatening to stop paying me half of her debts.

As the PWC you are entitled to approach the CMS, what you will have to balance is what you may get from the CMS vs any debt that she contributes to, as the NRP is not working, don't expect much if anything.

Mojisola

davesbigsack wrote: »

because shes threatening to stop paying me half of her debts.

Paying her half of debts that you got when you were a couple is completely separate from any child care payments.

pmlindyloo

And pause.

You are receiving child benefit for them so they are usually classed as being resident with you.

Are either of you receiving child tax credits for the children?

Is your ex asking for child support? Why does she feel that she needs child support? How are the children's expenses being shared?

You would be far better off sorting this out between you. Why don't you book an appointment at your local family mediation centre and ask them to help draw up some kind of agreement? It often helps to have a 'third person' present. Otherwise this could spoil your relationships with the children if you 'fight' about money. Family mediators will also help you sort out the debt money too.

Best to get it all sorted so that it is laid out in black and white.

davesbigsack

Mojisola wrote: »

Paying her half of debts that you got when you were a couple is completely separate from any child care payments.

i know but i figured if she wont give me the money one way then ill get it another way, silly i know.

pmlindyloo wrote: »

And pause.

You are receiving child benefit for them so they are usually classed as being resident with you.

Are either of you receiving child tax credits for the children?

Is your ex asking for child support? Why does she feel that she needs child support? How are the children's expenses being shared?

You would be far better off sorting this out between you. Why don't you book an appointment at your local family mediation centre and ask them to help draw up some kind of agreement? It often helps to have a 'third person' present. Otherwise this could spoil your relationships with the children if you 'fight' about money. Family mediators will also help you sort out the debt money too.

Best to get it all sorted so that it is laid out in black and white.

i get working tax credits, and i think we pretty much have it sorted regarding shared expenses.
but these debts that we both have, she should be eligible for half.

davesbigsack

swingaloo wrote: »

How old are the children? Are they at school? Looks like pretty much a shared thing timewise, you must both be caring for them around 12 hours a day.


I would be careful. if you claim from her she may well turn round and say she wont have them at night. Much better to try to keep things amicable.

11 and 13
that's another story if she wont have them at night because that means i would have to leave work, i would lose my house.
as my mum said jokingly, i would probably be better off on the dole but ive worked all my life i couldn't do the dole thing.