Just wondering if this is allowed

Podge52

This is only one of the disadvantages of it being an employers market. The place I've just retired from we had to be in and logged on all systems for start of shift. Mine was a support role and things changed daily with important info being sent by email. To do my job well I needed to read all the emails that had come through from finishing my last shift to starting the next one. This could be as many as 40 emails and as soon as the shift started you were that busy on the phone that you don't get the time to read them. The result could be that customer are receiving the wrong information.

It's a practice that needs eradicating, certainly for hourly paid workers. If you need to be in work before your shift starts then they should be paying you for that time.

I'm afraid I have no respect for an employer that exploits their workforce on a daily basis.

BoJangles_2

Podge52 wrote: »

This is only one of the disadvantages of it being an employers market. The place I've just retired from we had to be in and logged on all systems for start of shift. Mine was a support role and things changed daily with important info being sent by email. To do my job well I needed to read all the emails that had come through from finishing my last shift to starting the next one. This could be as many as 40 emails and as soon as the shift started you were that busy on the phone that you don't get the time to read them. The result could be that customer are receiving the wrong information.

It's a practice that needs eradicating, certainly for hourly paid workers. If you need to be in work before your shift starts then they should be paying you for that time.

I'm afraid I have no respect for an employer that exploits their workforce on a daily basis.

They aren't being asked to read 40 emails prior to their shift starting. Requesting that you be ready to start work at the time you start getting paid isn't exploitation.

Podge52

BoJangles wrote: »

They aren't being asked to read 40 emails prior to their shift starting. Requesting that you be ready to start work at the time you start getting paid isn't exploitation.

I was being asked to do my job well. To achieve that I had to know what changes had occurred between my last shift and the coming one.

Mistral001

I used to work in a car factory. The production line started at 6.00am. on the dot and if I was not changed into my boiler suit and waiting at my station before it started to roll there would be trouble. I only got paid from 6.00am, I thought nothing of it.

getmore4less

BoJangles wrote: »

Not where I work!

Don't confuse paid work time with unpaid work time.

If you need the PC provided to do your work and YOU have to switch it on it is work time.

VfM4meplse

FireWyrm wrote: »

It is a pretty normal if hated part of working in a shop. Staff usually make it up other ways...toilet breaks, extra minute on the break, that sort of thing.

I agree with your post but find it regrettable that retail staff aren't trusted and treated like adults. This clocking in business serves a purpose but I would imagine is demoralising and encourges a work to rule mentality.

BoJangles_2

getmore4less wrote: »

Don't confuse paid work time with unpaid work time.

If you need the PC provided to do your work and YOU have to switch it on it is work time.

I'm not confusing anything, we are talking about 5 minutes here! Nothing wrong to expect an employee to be ready for work at their start time....computer on and coat off!

Mistral001

VfM4meplse wrote: »

I agree with your post but find it regrettable that retail staff aren't trusted and treated like adults. This clocking in business serves a purpose but I would imagine is demoralising and encourges a work to rule mentality.

I see nothing wrong with clocking on and off. It is a straight-forward way accounting for time worked in a contract of employment. What is un-adult about that. I know teachers who have to clock on and off.

quietriot

BoJangles wrote: »

I'm not confusing anything, we are talking about 5 minutes here! Nothing wrong to expect an employee to be ready for work at their start time....computer on and coat off!

If an employer expects an employee to be ready to start work at their start time, then it's the employer's responsibility to make sure that all the tools necessary for them to do their work are in place and operational. If the computer needs to be switched on to start work, then the employer either switches it on in time for the employee starting, or pays the employee for the time spent switching it on themselves.

And I'd remind you that 5 minutes a day equates to over 19.5 hours per year for a full-time employee. Would you work for your employer for that much time and not get paid for it? Thought not.

BoJangles_2

quietriot wrote: »

If an employer expects an employee to be ready to start work at their start time, then it's the employer's responsibility to make sure that all the tools necessary for them to do their work are in place and operational. If the computer needs to be switched on to start work, then the employer either switches it on in time for the employee starting, or pays the employee for the time spent switching it on themselves.

And I'd remind you that 5 minutes a day equates to over 19.5 hours per year for a full-time employee. Would you work for your employer for that much time and not get paid for it? Thought not.

Whoopie doo, I can just imagine your face if asked to do unpaid overtime!

I guess work ethics differ from person to person. No wonder some people don't go very far in their career if they are squealing over 5 minutes! Jeez.