Trauma in Tunisia

peachyprice

1trainer1 wrote: »

interesting as everyone keeps on assuming Tunisia due to this attack and the one in March but forgets the terror incidents in Paris which happened last week and a few other times already this year.

SO my question is why is everyone picking on Tunisia when Paris is more likely to be dangerous

Do you really need to ask?

Lyon (assume that's were you meant, not Paris?) was an attack by an ex-employee who killed his ex boss. Tunisia was a targetted attack aimed purely at killing dozens of western tourists. Can you really not see the difference?

gregg1

MarkMM wrote: »

Of course, you are far more likely to die driving to the airport in the uk than be shot by a madman on a beach in Tunisia. I'd be looking for deals there if I was able to get away this summer.

That wasn't the case for the poor souls last week was it?

And Statistics can be manipulted to say anything you want them to.


Myself, I would much rather be led by my desire to keep my family safe as much as I can. That may seem over cautious to some but I can live with that.

So you take advantage of those fantastic deals and I truly do hope you have a good and safe holiday but please respect the choice of others to exert a little more caution.

peachyprice

Tunisia have just declared a state of emergency. Still think it's a good idea to go there?

Pollycat

Foreign Office advice (Tunisia):

Further terrorist attacks are likely, including in tourist resorts, and by individuals unknown to the authorities, whose actions may be inspired by terrorist groups via social media. You should be especially vigilant at this time and follow the advice of Tunisian security authorities and your tour operator.

elisebutt65

peachyprice wrote: »

So you would have been one of those back in March, after the Tunis attack, saying it's perfectly safe for people to holiday in Sousse in June, because a) there'd already been an attack so it was unlikely to happen again, b) hey, it's June, it would all have blown over by then and c) the attack was in Tunis, they're not going to attack an actual beach resort? The chances were not very slim were they, and the people who cancelled were not just paranoid.

If feeling safe on holiday and not wanting to visit countries with a large IS presence is self-defeating, so be it, I'd rather be self-defeating than dead.

If you want to visit high risk countries knock yourself out, but don't try to belittle people who would rather not.

I was and we still went at half term. 4 hotels down as a matter of fact. I probably wouldn't book again, but that's purely because I didn't like Tunisia.
All life is a gamble. What happens if a radicalised person decides to do the same in a Spanish or Greek resort? They definitely don't have enhanced security atm?

Should I avoid the Godiva festival this weekend as there are big crowds and a choice target?

Maybe we should all just stay at home for the next few years and not venture anywhere 'just in case'?

gregg1

elisebutt65 wrote: »

I was and we still went at half term. 4 hotels down as a matter of fact. I probably wouldn't book again, but that's purely because I didn't like Tunisia.
All life is a gamble. What happens if a radicalised person decides to do the same in a Spanish or Greek resort? They definitely don't have enhanced security atm?

Should I avoid the Godiva festival this weekend as there are big crowds and a choice target?

Maybe we should all just stay at home for the next few years and not venture anywhere 'just in case'?

Of course life is a gamble. But gambling involves assessing and deciding whether you are prepared to take the risk. I am taking my family abroad for a holiday soon. There may or may not be a risk, who knows. But I think there would be a greater risk were I to take them to somewhere like Tunisia, Turkey, Egypt etc at this point in time.

So no, i am not intending to stay at home "just in case". But neither am I prepared to take what I consider to be greater risks just for the sake of a holiday.

peachyprice

elisebutt65 wrote: »

I was and we still went at half term. 4 hotels down as a matter of fact. I probably wouldn't book again, but that's purely because I didn't like Tunisia.
All life is a gamble. What happens if a radicalised person decides to do the same in a Spanish or Greek resort? They definitely don't have enhanced security atm?

Should I avoid the Godiva festival this weekend as there are big crowds and a choice target?

Maybe we should all just stay at home for the next few years and not venture anywhere 'just in case'?

As far as I know Spain and Greece aren't muslim countries with with a large radicalised presence, trained next door in Libya, who don't want 'infidels' there. Or did I get that wrong?

MarkMM_2

Of course there are British citizens radicalised in syria coming back to the UK, but hey, the UK isn't a Muslim country so should be OK...

I don't hear of too many people cancelling their holidays to the us after that madman killed those people in the church a couple of weeks ago.

peachyprice

MarkMM wrote: »

Of course there are British citizens radicalised in syria coming back to the UK, but hey, the UK isn't a Muslim country so should be OK...

I don't hear of too many people cancelling their holidays to the us after that madman killed those people in the church a couple of weeks ago.

You still don't get it do you.

Cardew

MarkMM wrote: »

Of course there are British citizens radicalised in syria coming back to the UK, but hey, the UK isn't a Muslim country so should be OK...

I don't hear of too many people cancelling their holidays to the us after that madman killed those people in the church a couple of weeks ago.

Everyone has their own perception of risk.


From a terrorism aspect, I would put taking your family hiking in Helmand Province in Afghanistan in the high risk category, and taking them hiking in the Antarctic as low risk.


It is not just terrorism. West Africa is unsafe because of the Ebola virus. Good old fashioned crime! makes many countries/cities dangerous - even in the USA, many parts of major cities are 'no go' areas.