Trauma in Tunisia

PompeyPete

I reckon Tunisian Special Forces are up to the job, but they dress in order to intimidate and put the sh##s up anyone in their path. I don't think Theresa May looked comfortable the other day.

As for the nomal Tunisian copper, or any of these 1,000 reservists that have been called up, I wouldn't feel all that reassured if they were patrolling the resort or beach with any sort of weapon that could kill at the pull of a trigger.

melanzana

Why would anyone go to a country that has weak borders with Lybia and Algeria, places where the Tunisian IS radicals go to train and be armed. The mind boggles.

When the Bardo attack happened I was horrified and noticed that it was targeted at tourists in Tunis, since the season in the coastal resorts had not started in March really.

There may never be another attack in Tunisia, and hopefully there will not be. But I go on holiday to relax, not to be scared out of my wits that a lone wolf will terrorise me at any given moment. It is just too much.

I am of course very sorry for the resort workers and the hotels and tourism industry, but seems to me they were ill prepared for the possibility that this atrocity might happen. I know the medics did their very best, that could not be faulted, but the security situation seemed to me to be quite lax.

There is also the possibility that the police and army etc. could have IS members who have especially joined those forces, to thwart a reaction in the event of another attack. That is a very scary thought indeed.

I hope tomorrow Friday passes off peacefully around the globe. It's a strange and dangerous world these days wherever you are.

gregg1

melanzana wrote: »

Why would anyone go to a country that has weak borders with Lybia and Algeria, places where the Tunisian IS radicals go to train and be armed. The mind boggles.

When the Bardo attack happened I was horrified and noticed that it was targeted at tourists in Tunis, since the season in the coastal resorts had not started in March really.

There may never be another attack in Tunisia, and hopefully there will not be. But I go on holiday to relax, not to be scared out of my wits that a lone wolf will terrorise me at any given moment. It is just too much.

I am of course very sorry for the resort workers and the hotels and tourism industry, but seems to me they were ill prepared for the possibility that this atrocity might happen. I know the medics did their very best, that could not be faulted, but the security situation seemed to me to be quite lax.

There is also the possibility that the police and army etc. could have IS members who have especially joined those forces, to thwart a reaction in the event of another attack. That is a very scary thought indeed.

I hope tomorrow Friday passes off peacefully around the globe. It's a strange and dangerous world these days wherever you are.

I agree. I am afraid I do not subscribe to the gung-ho, cavalier attitude of some who assume because there has been one attack there will not be another. On another thread someone asked about whether they should go on their holiday to Egypt and the reaction from some posters was to imply that they were overreacting to even think of cancelling.

In my opinion, anyone taking their family to one of these places at the moment just for a holiday are off their rockers!

mickaveli2001

It's extremely paranoid to be cancelling holidays IMO. All this fear and panic doesn't do anything other than be self defeating and 99.999% of the time, the chances of anything happening are very slim. In fact, there are higher chances of your kids drowning on holiday than being a victim of a "terror" attack yet we don't cancel holidays based on this heightened risk of our kids drowning

melanzana

mickaveli2001 wrote: »

It's extremely paranoid to be cancelling holidays IMO. All this fear and panic doesn't do anything other than be self defeating and 99.999% of the time, the chances of anything happening are very slim. In fact, there are higher chances of your kids drowning on holiday than being a victim of a "terror" attack yet we don't cancel holidays based on this heightened risk of our kids drowning

You keep an eye on your kids at the beach/pool. Make sure the beach/pool has a lifeguard or flotation devices in the event of an emergency. You as a parent are in control of that situation if you are a responsible parent.

You cannot protect your children from a terrorist attack. That is the reality.

Anyway, if people want to cancel that is their right. If people do not want to travel to North Africa that is their right.

I could not spend my holiday looking over my shoulder for someone strolling with a Kalashnikov at the ready targeting tourists, and we are obvious to them. None of their women would go to the beach and wear the minimum to preserve their dignity. That is what they do not like. They see us as depraved immoral beings. That is why we are targeted.

It is too dangerous. Far too dangerous for pale sun starved tourists to visit these places. We stick out like sore thumb.

Cardew

PompeyPete wrote: »

As for the nomal Tunisian copper, or any of these 1,000 reservists that have been called up, I wouldn't feel all that reassured if they were patrolling the resort or beach with any sort of weapon that could kill at the pull of a trigger.

Given the numbers of people in Europe who have been radicalised and are sympathetic to the aims of terrorist groups, it is reasonable to assume that the incidence will be higher in Arab countries.

Andypandyboy

I agree, I don't think giving countries with a poor track record of safety a wide berth is bowing down to terrorism, it is common sense. Like it or not there are some regions of the world which are more dangerous than others. Just as I avoided Ireland during the troubles I will be avoiding places such as Egypt, Turkey and Tunisia. Nowhere is safe, but some places are safer and I won't put my family on the front line.

MarkMM_2

Of course, you are far more likely to die driving to the airport in the uk than be shot by a madman on a beach in Tunisia. I'd be looking for deals there if I was able to get away this summer.

1trainer1

mickaveli2001 wrote: »

To go to the area where any alleged terror attack takes place is probably the safest place to visit since it will have higher / tighter security

interesting as everyone keeps on assuming Tunisia due to this attack and the one in March but forgets the terror incidents in Paris which happened last week and a few other times already this year.

SO my question is why is everyone picking on Tunisia when Paris is more likely to be dangerous

peachyprice

mickaveli2001 wrote: »

It's extremely paranoid to be cancelling holidays IMO. All this fear and panic doesn't do anything other than be self defeating and 99.999% of the time, the chances of anything happening are very slim. In fact, there are higher chances of your kids drowning on holiday than being a victim of a "terror" attack yet we don't cancel holidays based on this heightened risk of our kids drowning

So you would have been one of those back in March, after the Tunis attack, saying it's perfectly safe for people to holiday in Sousse in June, because a) there'd already been an attack so it was unlikely to happen again, b) hey, it's June, it would all have blown over by then and c) the attack was in Tunis, they're not going to attack an actual beach resort? The chances were not very slim were they, and the people who cancelled were not just paranoid.

If feeling safe on holiday and not wanting to visit countries with a large IS presence is self-defeating, so be it, I'd rather be self-defeating than dead.

If you want to visit high risk countries knock yourself out, but don't try to belittle people who would rather not.