Shop assistants who don't bl**dy listen

JReacher1

Azari wrote: »

Which part of 'with cheese' are you struggling with? :rotfl:

The "with cheese" is the name of the product.

As a similar example I have a dairy intolerant friend who when we go to the pub by work orders the "bacon cheeseburger without cheese".

The name of the product doesn't constitute what the ingredients of the product are.

It is therefore not clear when you order a plain quarter pounder with cheese whether or not you want the cheese.

geerex

JReacher1 wrote: »

I'm still not sure if you want cheese on this burger or not!

"Quarter pounder with cheese" is the product name. If you want the burger to bespoke specifications I think you need to be more specific than just say plain quarter pounder with cheese. It's not obvious whether you want cheese or not. Therefore it seems reasonable for them to ask a follow up clarifying question.

Perhaps it's a regional thing.

A "grill order" in my local (and indeed, within a 100 mile radius) is that a "plain quarter cheese" is a quarter pounder WITH cheese. A plain quarter is one without. That's the distinction.

I'm not sure how to further break this down.

plain quarter cheese - a plain quarter pounder with cheese - burger, cheese, bun
plain quarter - a plain quarter pounder WITHOUT cheese- burger and bun only

sheesh.

elsien

Saturday night spent arguing about whether a quarter pounder with cheese comes with cheese -.life on the wild side here at MSE towers.:rotfl:

JReacher1

geerex wrote: »

I'll reiterate for those struggling to comprehend this simple request.

The "quarter pounder" product comprises thus:

"A quarter pound*, 100% beef patty with two slices of cheese, onions, pickles, mustard and a dollop of Tomato Ketchup - all in a sesame seed bun."

Now, to ask for something "plain" is to ask for ALL elements other than the burger/bun to be removed.

Thus, a PLAIN quarter pounder would be for it to be comprised solely of a burger and a bun. To ask for a plain quarter pounder with cheese would thus imply that you would like all the !!!!! removed but would like the cheese to remain.

I'm not sure why this is so difficult.

If, however, you wanted a cheeseburger, to ask for it plain would still imply that you want the cheese, otherwise you would just be asking for a plain hamburger. There ISN'T a "hamburger" (no cheese) variant of the quarter pounder thus my point stands.

There is no such thing as a quarter pounder. There is a product called a quarter pounder with cheese.

Your hamburger/cheeseburger argument is weak as these are two separate products identical apart from the fact one has a slice of cheese on it. There are not two equivalent quarter pounder/quarter pounder with cheese products served at McDonald's.

At the end of the day the fact you repeatedly have this problem when you go to McDonald's does sort of indicate that you're at fault.

daytona0

Azari wrote: »

Why do some people have so much difficulty working the English language?



If, for whatever reason, McShite do not offer a product called 'quarter pounder' (without the cheese option), the sensible and obvious way to ask for one without cheese is to ask for a 'quarter pounder, no cheese', rather than specifically asking for something you do not want: "plain quarter pounder with cheese".

It is almost universally understood in English that the specific overrides the general.

People don't have difficulty working the English language. Hell, I'm going to go out on a limb and wager that you know less than that of a proficient student who speaks English as a second language.

That aside, the English language is not fixed. Take your use of McShite, for example! Why can you use that without criticism? I think the meaning of it is pretty obvious even for those who are not proficient in English. Why can you say that, and yet a cashier can't clarify whether OP wanted cheese? What gives you the right to modify the lexis of English, but prevent this poor girl from asking a question? Are you superior to this cashier or something?

JReacher1

geerex wrote: »

Perhaps it's a regional thing.

A "grill order" in my local (and indeed, within a 100 mile radius) is that a "plain quarter cheese" is a quarter pounder WITH cheese. A plain quarter is one without. That's the distinction.

I'm not sure how to further break this down.

plain quarter cheese - a plain quarter pounder with cheese - burger, cheese, bun
plain quarter - a plain quarter pounder WITHOUT cheese- burger and bun only

sheesh.

If it's common knowledge in 100 miles in every direction then why do you complain about them asking you whether or not you want cheese? Surely this only rarely happens?

Is this only an issue in McDonald's you visit outside this 100 mile radius?

I get the impression you've tried to post a "funny" post to try and make out staff in the service sector are idiots and are now not happy when the majority of people (with the exception of the forum troll) don't agree with you!

kizkiz

the point about Mcdonalds is valid, but has been lost in the cheesegate incident!


Me: Can I have a large bigmac meal with Fanta please?
Mcdonalds staff: What drink would you like with that?
Me: Ermm, fanta
Mcdonalds: Would you like to go large?
Me: seriously?


A good 90% of the time this happens. They read the script without paying any attention to what was said

Kantankrus_Mare

I work in an independant coffee establishment and can tell you that many customers ask for a black coffee or black americano and then when you give them it .....ask for some milk. Doh!!

To cover myself...I always ask if they would like any milk and then get patronising looks from the ones that really DO want it black.

Cant win!!!

pendragon_arther

Next time ask for a Hamburger Royale, McRoyal avec du fromage.

Have a nice day, ya' hear.

Nodding_Donkey

kipperman wrote: »

Buy a pint of milk at garage, present to cashier.
"Just this", with an emphasis on the just, I say.
"Any fuel then?" comes the reply.

Sigh....

I just look at them when they do that. If they ask again I just point out that I have already answered that.