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ANPR Company - Private Car Park Disabled Badges?

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  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    edited 16 May 2015 at 10:29PM
    ok , so why the trespass letters as opposed to normal parking ones , he,s not tied to 28-56 days now , 2 x 1st class and he,s home n dry


    this case and the other are both trespass NOT parking




    I have helped with one case (plungington rd/preston) early april that was a trespass one , and the one on the other post is trespass , although he has,nt stated date of offence ,
    trev departed on ,, copied from old post : ,, you know this , but its for others


    copied from a posting I made a week ago


    shows the timeline of his demise


    ANPR WERE member of the BPA uptill 2nd April 2015 , as per pranky http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co...f-bpa-aos.html


    and according to the BPA dated 13th april


    The British Parking Association (BPA) has terminated the membership of ANPR Limited with immediate effect


    http://www.britishparking.co.uk/News...f-anpr-limited



    and the Muppet himself


    http://www.anpr-ltd.com/news.php


    Change

    It is rumoured that ANPR Ltd are no longer members of the BPA and that we've been 'Kicked Off' off their Approved Operator Scheme. I can confirm that the rumours are 100% true. Ironically our membership was due to expire in March and we made it blatantly clear we will not be renewing our £5,000 membership.
    As expected we anticipated a change long ago and have initiated our contingency plan.
    01/04/2015

    I know he has !!!!ed the BPA off , but they are wrong , as they clearly state that "The British Parking Association (BPA) has terminated the membership of ANPR Limited with immediate effect
    on the 13th april


    any outstanding claims and appeals issued before there suspension should take place



    he,s playing both sides , refusing any POPA jobs as out of date , and going the trespass route
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,798 Forumite
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    From that link
    After many letters and an increase in the fine, I wrote to ANPR - requesting a popla code, telling them I was not trespassing as it was not private land etc.

    Got a letter back from ANPR saying it was too late for a popla code (apparently they can't give one after 28 days?) and I now had to pay my fine plus costs.

    Forum searched ANRP again, and decided to ignore the letters.

    Will also note that they have recently put up some 'Warning Private Land' notices, recently, all around the car park/loading areas.

    Heard nothing, and then today, two weeks later I have recieved a letter from 'Expedion'

    It's clear 'After many letters' then 'can't give a POPLA code after 28 days', then 'two weeks later I have received a letter from 'Expedion', surely takes this particular case well back in time and where ANPR were still a member of the BPA with direct access to the DVLA database.

    Any other link(s) which categorically (and logistically) proves they are still continuing to have access to the DVLA database after their expulsion from the BPA?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    not to hand , but I will find links from after the BPA days




    jan 2015 , no bpa , no POFa , just trespass , and it was done by written letter to DVLC


    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2a6qdqx&s=8#.VVe47unbK71
  • 6022tivo
    6022tivo Posts: 818 Forumite
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    edited 16 May 2015 at 10:48PM
    I know I am a bit of an amateur on this, but I thought anyone could write to the DVLA with a couple of quid and get an owners details?
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    yes they can for trespass , but not for parking offences , as your ticket is dated 16/05/2015 , if you receive a nice piece of bog paper from trev , it will prove this.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,798 Forumite
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    edited 16 May 2015 at 11:11PM
    So you believe this BS from Trev?
    Our relationship with the BPA has been somewhat strained over the last year and reached breaking point and just like many others will no longer endure their authoritarianism. Reassuringly we have always used trespass to access the DVLA manually using FormV888/2 as opposed to the electron link. We have never relied upon the Protection of freedoms act 2012 to rely on keeper liability. Once you can prove trespass the registered keeper is always responsible, after all its their vehicle and the driver is irrelevant.

    Then, take a look at this, from the horse's mouth.
    It is rumoured that ANPR Ltd are no longer members of the BPA and that we've been 'Kicked Off' off their Approved Operator Scheme. I can confirm that the rumours are 100% true. Ironically our membership was due to expire in March and we made it blatantly clear we will not be renewing our £5,000 membership.

    As expected we anticipated a change long ago and have initiated our contingency plan.

    01/04/2015

    And they would have definitely 'milked' their membership, right up to the last day of that membership - that's why the January 2015 'trespass case' RK's data was accessed from the DVLA.

    And where in legislation:

    1. Is there RK liability for trespass?
    2. Can an 'agent' prosecute 'trespass'?

    Happy to be proved 'wrong', but struggling with any of the 'evidence' so far produced.

    What did you think of Trev's 'ANPR-in-a-Box'? Tempted to purchase it? You seem to be buying his other BS! :rotfl:
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    edited 16 May 2015 at 11:06PM
    I am not buying his other !!!!!!!! , try googling "what do they know" / preston council and ANPR , the !!!!!!!! about him having to pay the council £100 every time he broke his contract and allowed someone to park.


    full printed answer showing that they had never received a penny , guess who has been placing A3 placards over all his signs at plungington/preston advising people that they have been removed from the BPA , and do not reply , umm I even informed the council and sent them all the pranky/BPA cuttings , and they fired him!


    I do not believe his !!!!!!!! , however I have read of a couple of cases within the last month , trespass only


    it is happening , the other poster has not given us dates apart from "a few weeks ago" , this case on this thread has a defined date , lets watch its progression ,
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,798 Forumite
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    I think we should, for now, call this a 'draw', and agree (lest we confuse the OP) that he/she does nothing at the moment unless (vanishingly unlikely in my view) any correspondence is received from ANPR Ltd.

    If anything turns up in the post, the OP should get back urgently, when we can get on the case as to how ANPR Ltd accessed the OP's details.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • enfield_freddy
    enfield_freddy Posts: 6,147 Forumite
    agreed , I have just PMed the other poster asking them to add the date of the parking incident to there post ,


    how naughty of trev , to issue a ticket today with reference to the BPA , he probably cant afford to buy new tickets
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,798 Forumite
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    how naughty of trev , to issue a ticket today with reference to the BPA , he probably cant afford to buy new tickets

    That's the probability - bulldoze ahead, use up (recycle) existing paperwork (which is probably unlawful), as the majority of 'punters' will know no difference, with many stumping up, or, stupidly, making an appeal, revealing all their details, saving Trev (under their previous BPA membership access to the DVLA database) £2.50 a pop! Can still make a living!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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