Nice People Thread No. 14, all Nice and Proper

Doozergirl

PasturesNew wrote: »

It's all spin and hype... buzzwords like "processed" are not understood and just used as a "catch all" phrase by people who like to grow their own organic kale and eat it in the food they cook from scratch.

Not all processed food is processed, whatever the definition of that is.

Everything "they" say is bad for us will be deemed good for us by another bunch of planks in 10 years' time. You can't spend your life chasing fads.

For tea tonight I've had the other half a tin of beans, some instant potato and a few more of those yummy sausages
Then a cheesecake.

EDIT: It's an hour later .... and I just had some cheeky sausages as they were so nice.... couldn't leave them alone.

I don't think "processed" is a buzz word. The very reason we are fat as a nation is the amount of processed and convenience food we eat without considering things like the sugar and fat content. Ignorance is bliss.

Take it all away and we'd find it hard to consume that much crud.

Doozergirl

PasturesNew wrote: »

Not got it.
Never heard of it.

Watching some cack about Stephen Fry on BBC2.

Sorry, but :rotfl:. Wish I'd picked cack instead of crud for my last post.

zagubov

PasturesNew wrote: »

Not got it.

It's on 4od.

Generali

Doozergirl wrote: »

I don't think "processed" is a buzz word. The very reason we are fat as a nation is the amount of processed and convenience food we eat without considering things like the sugar and fat content. Ignorance is bliss.

Take it all away and we'd find it hard to consume that much crud.

Did you see Jamie Oliver's Sugar Rush? It was amazing.

He showed what looked like a pretty healthy diet: bran flakes with low fat yogurt and fruit for brekkie, tomato soup with bread and a small soft drink for lunch and stir fry using one of those sauces for dinner. It had something nuts like 66 teaspoons of sugar in.

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

The trouble is that some (vocal) people will slam everything as processed and diss all convenience food, without knowing how it's made, or what it's made of. So, unless you have dug a potato out of your own garden, "it must be processed; it is therefore crud and you are an idiot and devil reincarnate for eating it" attitude.

One'd need to know/understand the meaning of the word processed in order to present the facts that it's bad.

But, on the flip side, they also need to take an individual's situation and circumstances into consideration....

Is it wrong to feed a starving/homeless person by buying them a pack of 6 sausage rolls?

Are all tins of baked beans automatically bad?

It's too complex a subject - yet there are some who will sit and declare that everything's bad unless they have/do it.

They can get your back up really.... it's a form of food bullying.

I'll admit there's an obesity problem - and some foods have too much fat/salt/sugar in them - and some people eat too many of those too often ....

But some people are just (there's a word for it that's a big word I don't know) judgemental/smug about it and will just declare anything/all things as bad.

One example is my little cheesecakes .... I'm probably better off eating those rather than making cheesecake myself because the very act of making a cheesecake "from scratch" would involve a LOT more fat/sugar and I'd end up with 6x the volume to scoff my way through

The problem isn't so much someone having a small cheesecake, that's an occasional treat. It's that the food industry systematically hides a load of sugar in our food and drink. A large coke from Maccas with no ice has 65g of sugar in it. I bet you couldn't eat 65g of sugar but in coke we can consume it.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

Did you see Jamie Oliver's Sugar Rush? It was amazing.

He showed what looked like a pretty healthy diet: bran flakes with low fat yogurt and fruit for brekkie, tomato soup with bread and a small soft drink for lunch and stir fry using one of those sauces for dinner. It had something nuts like 66 teaspoons of sugar in.

It's got so I always assume that low fat means high sugar. I deeply distrust "negative labelling".

michaels

zagubov wrote: »

It's on 4od.

Which you could watch on your tellie with a £5 to charity now tv box....

Doozergirl

Generali wrote: »

The problem isn't so much someone having a small cheesecake, that's an occasional treat. It's that the food industry systematically hides a load of sugar in our food and drink. A large coke from Maccas with no ice has 65g of sugar in it. I bet you couldn't eat 65g of sugar but in coke we can consume it.

That's what I was trying to say.

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

For years I've been saying "Have you seen the calories in yoghurt? There are fewer in a chocolate mousse and I know which I'd rather eat"

People will bandy about things they call "healthy" when they're not. That's what annoys me about such "buzzwords". Fruit juice isn't healthy in isolation... and a glass of coke has fewer calories than a glass of orange juice.

Healthy is a phrase too many people hang onto and boast about without really being able to back it up.

I'm proud to be a pie eater..... but I also respect the fat/calorie content of that, so only manage to eat a slice about 3-4x a year.... I just like to talk about it every day

Yup, I like to have a pie now and again. There's a great pie shop I take the kids to up in the mountains a couple of times a year and I'll usually have a pie at the pie shop. That isn't a problem.

What is a problem IMHO is the amount of sugar that companies hide in apparently healthy staples like bread, baked beans, soup, tinned tomatoes and yogurt. Some manufacturers even add sugar to instant mash!

Doozergirl

I've just downloaded the change4life sugar smart app. You scan the barcode and it tells you the sugar content. A facebook friend has been sharing stuff she's been scanning over the last few days.