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vivatifosi wrote: »Later on, he turned the conversation back to ISIS so we asked him if we was worried by them. He said "no, because I don't live in London".
I strongly suspect the easy answer for a parent to give to a child questioning if we are safe, is that any attack would be in London.
Time to reinforce that London-Hertfordshire boundary, which has always looked weak.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
Our current threats are far more survivable (at least physically but I worry about culturally).
I am pretty sure that we are overreacting, which is exactly what the terrorists want. The WWII approach would be better: keep calm and carry on.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
I'd be willing to shoot someone for a tin of beans if the Generalissimos were starving I suspect.I strongly suspect the easy answer for a parent to give to a child questioning if we are safe, is that any attack would be in London.
Time to reinforce that London-Hertfordshire boundary, which has always looked weak.
I was thinking that the place to attack would be somewhere that to the international media was 'London' but that wasn't actually the bit of London where all those armed policeman and spooks were ready to react within minutes....I think....0 -
Sending hugs to Spirit, and hoping for things to look up soon for you.PasturesNew wrote: »I know, for me, it involved using the car heater on the dashboard on full to dry it
That's my usual method!PasturesNew wrote: »
IRA bombings happening every so often anywhere in the UK were a horrible but not unexpected occurrence when I was a child. Enniskillen isn't exactly the capital of anywhere. There were other bombings that weren't IRA too - animal rights ones on various occasions, for example, or ETA bombings in Spain, if we're thinking further afield than the UK. OTOH, so far, most Islamist terrorist attacks on Western countries do seem to have been on capital cities (counting NY as "financial capital" of the US). No reason to suppose that just because that's been the case so far it'll continue to be the case, though.
And yes, Gen, I agree about keeping calm and carrying on - at least for ordinary people - I don't claim to know what the security services should or should not be doing. Back then we kept calm and carried on despite the IRA, and we will again now. The only difference is that the outrage of the general public is a lot more noticeable (for a week or two) in a world with social media than it was in the 70s & 80s. Because actually, the risk to any particular person is very small in real terms, and there isn't really anything that ordinary people can do that will make any difference. I did see a link today, to a site promising to tell you "how to change your facebook picture and other ways you can help"! Changing their facebook picture may be a way in which people find it helpful to express how they feel and show their respect, but does anybody think it "helps" the objective situation?
On a lighter note...
There was also the more frequent disruptions from bomb scares when I was a kid that meant that somewhere had to be evacuated for what turned out to be a hoax. We had one at our school one time, thought to have been perpetrated by somebody hoping to get out of doing a test. :rotfl:Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
PasturesNew wrote: »
and the Brighton bombing.
I remember when I was working in a government department and we were evacuated. A security person said they had 20 hoax phone calls a day and the difficulty was screening out the real calls. Clearly there were agreed lists of code words and agreed target stations. Problem now is that ISIS actually want to kill people, whereas the IRA gave warnings.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
I strongly suspect the easy answer for a parent to give to a child questioning if we are safe, is that any attack would be in London.
Time to reinforce that London-Hertfordshire boundary, which has always looked weak.
That sounds a good idea, only my DD2 works in central London
I suspect she'll be back to power-walking rather than using the bus. I do realise that the likelihood of any one person being on a particular train/bus or at a particular station at the very moment of an incident is very small, though.
(ETA I'd much rather she used the bus - so would she - as she's on her feet most of the day once she gets to work.)0 -
That sounds a good idea, only my DD2 works in central London
I suspect she'll be back to power-walking rather than using the bus. I do realise that the likelihood of any one person being on a particular train/bus or at a particular station at the very moment of an incident is very small, though.
(ETA I'd much rather she used the bus - so would she - as she's on her feet most of the day once she gets to work.)
OK, I'm going to be blunt here. I mean it in the kindest, most supportive way, and I'm not trying to be flippant about death, so please take it in the way I mean it.
She's much more at risk walking. The risk of getting shot or blown up is very small anyway, and it's not clear that it's lower walking than on the bus. OK, the bus is a more likely target than people on the pavement, but people on the pavement are at risk too, and walking means spending more time out on the street rather than at work (and unless she works in some kind of workplace that might be considered as specifically representing some aspect of a decadent capitalist lifestyle, like the Twin Towers or the Charlie Hebdo office, she's safer at work than on the street). The biggest difference in risk is that she is much more at risk of being run over if she's walking than she is on the bus, and that risk is many many times bigger than the risk of a terrorist attack.
Not that I think that she should choose her means of getting to work based on risk in that way. If she'd prefer the bus, I hope she gets the bus, especially with the kind of weather we usually have in November. If she enjoys walking and thinks the exercise does her good, I hope she walks. But to walk instead of catching the bus because of concern about risk just doesn't add up.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
You need to factor in the health benefits of power walking, though, offset partly by the risks of the particulates she inhales.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0
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