Parking Ticket's - Rossendales Collect

Redx

think of it as like a dumbed down version of Judge Rinder, but in a smaller room with just 3 to 5 people sat around a table , not so much showboating or glib questions or answers and the judge having to decide if the people bringing the charge have the right , plus the evidence, to prove the case that they bring

no locus standii (no legal right to bring the case) by the claimant = case closed in favour of the appellant (you)

the PPC or their envoys have to prove the case beyond reasonable doubt , such that a judge believes they have the right to do so, have done the correct procedures etc and are due some sort of redress under the laws of the land

until this happens , no judgement has happened, with no judgment they cannot send in the bailiffs, you would have to lose, fail to pay the judgment within 28 days and a CCJ be issued before enforcement can commence

morpheus83uk

Ah right so basically if it did go to court and I lost if I paid there and then for arguments sake no CCJ or anything would be issued? so nothing goes on my credit record?

Regarding the payment it could be up to £85 if your not annoying the judge that is?

I know you said generally its only like 10% of cases which go this far and its very rare they win but as I said I just like to know all the options.

Redx

add £100 to that, as its more likely to be nearer £200 (you didnt add the parking charge on)

so as long as you settle the judgment within 28 days , thats the end of it , no CCJ , no bailiffs , nothing , nada , job done

Umkomaas

morpheus83uk wrote: »

Ah right so basically if it did go to court and I lost if I paid there and then for arguments sake no CCJ or anything would be issued? so nothing goes on my credit record?

Regarding the payment it could be up to £85 if your not annoying the judge that is?

I know you said generally its only like 10% of cases which go this far and its very rare they win but as I said I just like to know all the options.

Oops, didn't cover the CCJ. Another point of uneducated, mass-hysteria here. A CCJ can only affect your credit rating if:

1. You go to court
2. You lose your case
3. The Judge awards costs against you
4. You have 28 days to pay up
5. You fail/forget/refuse to pay the costs awarded against you
6. You receive CCJ
7. Credit rating qualified
8. Potential problems getting credit in future.

All within your own control if it ever got there.

No - it's more, the £85 is all that's likely to be added to whatever the initial PCN said - typically £75 -£100 plus (up to) £85.

10% of all cases go to court papers, but don't forget that ParkingEye accounted for over 30,000 cases last year, so even more need to 'do the maths' as 10% won't apply to the remaider of the shower.

I didn't say that it's very rare they win - don't put words in my mouth! - the SCC is like playing Russian Roulette, but with three chambers filled! Whether you or the PPC take one first? Again - do the maths!

morpheus83uk

Sorry my mistake.

So if the original invoice was for £65 which I think it was. The £85 will be added to this if I lost?

I thought that was correct regarding the CCJ but I waned to check if I was correct in my thinking.

So as I understand it only around 10% actually go to court and if I am one of them that go to court I have to work out if its worth paying the £130 Rossendals are requesting vs the potential £130 court fee to pay?

If it goes to court where will the court be held will it be somewhere near my so sensible to get to?

Umkomaas

Sorry, but this is getting rather protracted! You need to do some more research of your own - Google might be your friend - on the SCC processes.

Yep - court near you!

You also need to very carefully read what I'm taking the effort to write! I didn't say 10% went to court; I said 10% go to court papers. A much different proposition.

I think I'm out on this now. Sorry, but my efforts don't seem to be providing the intended help I hoped to give you. I think you might need to find someone a bit more experienced.

Herbie21

enfield_freddy wrote: »

the difference between me knocking on your door and a trained ape , is they are trying to get 15% commission


a debt collector has no rights , although Rossendale's often forget that they are not working for the councils


if they insist , and use the words WE WILL a CC , then they are exceeding there powers , and a swift belt on the knee caps is needed .

Quite a few private parking companies use bailiff companies as DEBT COLLECTION companies. The popular companies are Rossendales and Newlyn's but they have separate DEBT COLLECTION companies (Rossendales Debt) The letters must NOT refer to bailiff enforcement.


Bailiff Advice Online

morpheus83uk

Umkomaas sorry I am trying to understand what your saying as its all new to me I am not trying to put words in your mouth or ignoring what your saying I am just trying to get it correct in my head so I fully understand it all.

Regarding the court papers I thought that meant you went to court as you had papers stating you were being asked to court regarding this. If this is wrong I am sorry but I don't know the difference between court papers and going to court.

I had Newlyn's contact me before Rossendale's they just gave up and only sent me two letters which was ages ago now and then I suddenly get this one from Rossendales out of the blue!

How long do they keep sending letters etc out for or changing companies to fulfill their invoice or is it just different with each company or how bothered the company can actually be?

Thanks

James

Grimble

Six years, there is a chain of them. Most of the time it is the same company using different names.

morpheus83uk

That long!!! Don't they get the message after their first year? That seems very excessive for get £65 from someone...