Who will win the UK election ?

andydiysaver

N1AK wrote: »

I think the people jumping to escape the EU are cowards afraid of change, and imagined issues. I'll vote to leave the EU when I want to leave the EU, not before then because a bunch of out of touch little Englanders have lost touch with reality.

You can 'believe' there would be 75% in favour of leaving the EU all you like, but given the polling that has been done on the issue it says more about your own delusions than reality.

little Englander? WHAT????!!?


ask us then - then it's settled.

andydiysaver

N1AK can you either confirm you are not Nick Clegg or expand on the imagined issues in the EU somewhat (haha or the lack thereof...)


Greece's drachma is at parity with Germany's Deutschmark - not imagined issues, not little England, FACT. because it is artificially engineered to be so by an elite club of ex premiers who are having an extremely expensive laugh at our expense - not so much ours, but most of Southern Europes! Greece is locked into misery - so are other Southern European states, only the deluded, Nick Clegg and bloated career politicians are able to spout the familiar "racist" "little England " chant even though when they look much further than out their windows in their rich homes, southern Europe is in absolute decline as the gap between them and the rich North widens and widens -you have to be absolutely brain dead to then go on spouting stuff about racism/little Englanders just to win arguments- tell that to a Greek father whose kids cannot eat well all because of this narcissistic and completely unmanageable Euro clap trap!


A wise man once said to me politics is like a horse shoe- a circle- the further right you go the more to the left you become -and it's interesting really because the left wingers scream little England to win every flawed argument when actually the right wingers would gain a far better reception in the countries where half the populations are being royally screwed by the perpetually unmanageable communist and left wing ideals...

zagfles

andydiysaver wrote: »

N1AK can you either confirm you are not Nick Clegg or expand on the imagined issues in the EU somewhat (haha or the lack thereof...)


Greece's drachma is at parity with Germany's Deutschmark - not imagined issues, not little England, FACT. because it is artificially engineered to be so by an elite club of ex premiers who are having an extremely expensive laugh at our expense - not so much ours, but most of Southern Europes! Greece is locked into misery - so are other Southern European states, only the deluded, Nick Clegg and bloated career politicians are able to spout the familiar "racist" "little England " chant even though when they look much further than out their windows in their rich homes, southern Europe is in absolute decline as the gap between them and the rich North widens and widens -you have to be absolutely brain dead to then go on spouting stuff about racism/little Englanders just to win arguments- tell that to a Greek father whose kids cannot eat well all because of this narcissistic and completely unmanageable Euro clap trap!

And of course all this highlights how brain dead the SNP's stance of wanting independance but to retain a common currency is! Have they not looked across the water (either east or west) to see all the problems caused when a common currency is shared between independant countries?

cepheus

Who Will Win the Election? - Panorama

American statistician Nate Silver shot to fame by correctly predicting the outcome of the past two US presidential elections, state by state. Now he arrives in the UK, where reporter Richard Bacon takes him on a road trip around the country, meeting voters of all political persuasions and backgrounds, from the rolling hills of Devon to the pier at Skegness, Lincolnshire. With just 10 days before polling day in one of the most uncertain British elections in decades, can Nate correctly forecast which way it will go?

BBC1 London 8:30pm-9:00pm (30 minutes)Mon 27 Apr

http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail/2131512/107535048/who-will-win-the-electionpanorama#.VT0WAyFViko

Nasqueron

zagfles wrote: »

And of course all this highlights how brain dead the SNP's stance of wanting independance but to retain a common currency is! Have they not looked across the water (either east or west) to see all the problems caused when a common currency is shared between independant countries?

They want to keep the pound because a new country with a new currency will get trashed on the international lending markets giving them huge borrowing interest rates. In addition they would then have the BoE as lender of last resort in case their banks or economy went down. With official use of the pound they can borrow more and cheaper. The fact that the BoE would set interest rates to benefit the UK not Scotland and having to run their economy under fiscal rules from London was something the SNP brushed under the carpet - they just wanted to get votes by pretending they could keep the pound. It's much the same as pretending they could "fast track" into the EU (changed position from the original claim of "transitioning") instead of admitting what the EU said - they had to wait 2 years as a new country before applying and would need to get agreement of every member state

antrobus

cepheus wrote: »

http://www.tvguide.co.uk/detail/2131512/107535048/who-will-win-the-electionpanorama#.VT0WAyFViko

Do you mean the Nate Silver who made this final prediction of the the 2010 General Election result;

Conservatives 312, Labour 204, LibDems 103

Oops.:)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-uk-projection-conservatives-312/

chucknorris

antrobus wrote: »

Do you mean the Nate Silver who made this final prediction of the the 2010 General Election result;

Conservatives 312, Labour 204, LibDems 103

Oops.:)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-uk-projection-conservatives-312/

So does that mean that he is even more intelligent than that German octopus that correctly predicted the early results of the last world cup (football)?

antrobus

chucknorris wrote: »

So does that mean that he is even more intelligent than that German octopus that correctly predicted the early results of the last world cup (football)?

It was the last World Cup but one that Paul the octopus had an apparent run of success in predicting results. Whether or no he was 'German' might be open to argument; he was actually an English born octopus who was resident in Germany. But I'm not sure if that sort of thing matters if you're an octopus. Are they classified as EU citizens?

Sadly he wasn't around for the last 2014 World Cup. He was dead. Octocpuses don't live that long, apparently. A bit like hamsters. One minute they're fine, the next they're off to meet their maker.

I'm not sure what that means regarding the relative intelligence of a cephalapod and some US electroral pundit, who seems to believe that wandering around the UK and talking to random people will enable him to interpret UK opinion poll data in such a way as to avoid his previous errors.

cepheus

He seems to have made the same mistake as most of the other pollsters in giving the Lib Dems too much, particularly in terms of seats. Almost identical to YouGov in percentages. Perhaps they don't need to understand tactical voting in the US?


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/final-uk-projection-conservatives-312/


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8667801.stm

cepheus

Just reading off this graph, the Tories were around 7 points ahead at this stage a few days before bigotgate, which grew to 9 by polling day, but the result was around 7 in practice.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8667801.stm

Tonight's YouGov/Sun poll:
LAB 34%
CON 33%
UKIP 14%
LDEM 8%
GRN 5%
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