Why Are Young People Encouraged NOT to Label Anyone?

Thistle-down

BrassicWoman wrote: »

I find the views of those who are concerned about *themselves and what they are called* are opposed to those concerned about *others feeling bullied and marginalised.*

To me it looks very clear cut that it's self centered people vs those who can empathise with others on this thread.

My personal belief is that those in non marginalised groups have a moral responsibility to look out for those in postions of less priviledge. I am sad that it is not shared. I am glad we have a number of more liberal and caring views around the place too!

In the meantime, it's rather like talking to my dad, who is of a different, long ago world, and has lost the ability to change his viewpoint on anything. So I don't bother debating with him, as his mind is totally shut.

I wish I could thank this post more than once. :T

Jagraf

It looks like we can only describe those people who have told us what we can describe them as.

Indie_Kid

peachyprice wrote: »

The most ironic thing of all? Parents are so eager to label their children, how many people have posted on here about perceived peculiar behaviour only to be told it must be ASD/ADHD etc., and to get a diagnosis ASAP!

Yet, a lot of the time, it's just a personality thing. My dad told me from the age of about 12, (possibly younger) that him and mum knew I had ASD. But for numerous reasons, chose not to get me diagnosed.

I post on another forum where a lot of teenagers talk about pansexuality, assexuality, etc. I can't understand the need to label yourselves. Ok, I admit that I have no interest in relationships. But I have never labeled myself and have no desire to do so. I can't see the point in doing so.

Babbawah

BrassicWoman wrote: »

In the meantime, it's rather like talking to my dad, who is of a different, long ago world, and has lost the ability to change his viewpoint on anything. So I don't bother debating with him, as his mind is totally shut.

By the time I realised my father was right . . . I had my own children who thought I was wrong !

Are you sure it's daddy's problem and not your own?

My father was the most cantankerous yet free thinking individual you could ever meet, you needed to possess 'balls of steel' if you ever wished to disagree with him on any particular subject.

Only now, long after he's gone, have many of his strong opinions been seen to be proven as right !

j.e.j.

BrassicWoman wrote: »

In the meantime, it's rather like talking to my dad, who is of a different, long ago world, and has lost the ability to change his viewpoint on anything. So I don't bother debating with him, as his mind is totally shut.

Probably just as well. Your debating skills are somewhat lacking in any case.

BrassicWoman

j.e.j. wrote: »

Probably just as well. Your debating skills are somewhat lacking in any case.

Ahh ad hominem. The last resort.

Babbawah

Indie_Kid wrote: »

Yet, a lot of the time, it's just a personality thing. My dad told me from the age of about 12, (possibly younger) that him and mum knew I had ASD. But for numerous reasons, chose not to get me diagnosed.

I post on another forum where a lot of teenagers talk about pansexuality, assexuality, etc. I can't understand the need to label yourselves. Ok, I admit that I have no interest in relationships. But I have never labeled myself and have no desire to do so. I can't see the point in doing so.

Have you ever considered that this behaviour might be a symptom of your ASD?

Indie_Kid

Babbawah wrote: »

Have you ever considered that this behaviour might be a symptom of your ASD?

Yes I have.

BrassicWoman

Jagraf wrote: »

It looks like we can only describe those people who have told us what we can describe them as.

Or have had a reasonable conversation about what they find acceptable.

pickledonionspaceraider

anotheruser wrote: »

I really don't understand this.

There seems to be a general consensus to encourage kids not to label anyone particularly, but why is this?

A good example is the parents who raised a gener-neutral child so the child "would not be influenced by society's prejudices".

While this is an extreme example, I don't understand why kids are discouraged from labelling someone gay, straight, boy, girl... among other things.

Surely a label is just a term used to describe someone? For instance, if someone has killed someone else, they are a killer... surely?

If we had a cupboard fill of jam jars with no labels, we'd end up having pickled onions on toast.

So I don't understand people who say we shouldn't label people.

To be honest, I think the parents in that article you quote, are taking the non labelling thing to a completely new level. I would not consider it a 'label' to be referred to as a female, it is what I am

I don't like 'judgemental' areas of labelling. i.e we see someone doing something ONCE...EVER..and it becomes their label. For example you meet someone for the first time who is having a bad day and they are forever labelled as grumpy

Human beings are far more dimensional than one singular label could ever represent