Biggest culprits - inconsiderate drivers?

rainbowfairydust

arcon5 wrote: »

So basically you was coasting in lane 3 at 70mph.

So you don't know how to keep to the left hand lane unless passing vehicles. As well as not knowing the laws when it comes to U turns. Not exactly selling yourself here as a driver.

neither are you - the maximum speed limit is 70mph.

Gavin83

rainbowfairydust wrote: »

neither are you - the maximum speed limit is 70mph.

You can act as moral as you wish but remaining in the outside lane when you aren't actually overtaking is illegal as well so your no better than those you are complaining about. People who feel it's their job to police others when they're just a bad really annoy me. Just stop being pathetic about it and move over.

[Deleted User]

So what the OP and a few others on here are agreed on is it`s not them, it`s all the other drivers on the road who are not perfect.
White van drivers, taxi drivers, women, oap`s, youngsters and men all have one failing in common..................Being a human being !

And not perfect we all make mistakes but how we behave after that mistake is the teller!

Cornucopia

Iceweasel wrote: »

If you have people behind you wanting you to move left so they can pass it's not up to you to teach them a lesson by holding them up in their desire to break the law.

You're making a huge assumption that the poster was doing that.

But - they may not have been intending to exceed the speed limit at all - you may not have been doing 70mph.

Does it matter? You have to share the road with everyone else, irrespective of how accurate their speedos are.

How do you know that you were doing 70mph and not around 66 or so which seems to be the favourite speed of the 3rd lane hoggers I seem to come up behind.

There is no rule that says you have to being doing 70 to qualify for "outside lane privileges". This attitude is all wrong.

Is it really going to delay you that much to travel at 66 for a while, instead of 70? What is so important about your journey?

Calibrated speedo? Checked your speed with a sat-nav? Either way it doesn't matter - you were a rolling road-block.

The poster was either using the outside lane, correctly, to overtake slower moving vehicles or not. You don't know, and their actual speed is largely irrelevant.

All you are doing is making people angry and frustrated - and that leads to people doing yet more crazy and illegal things - like overtaking on the left.

People who are getting "angry and frustrated" by a temporary hold-up have entirely the wrong attitude to driving. Minor inconveniences are inevitable and drivers need to treat them with calm humility. If other people are putting pressure on you to complete a drive in an unreasonable time limit, you need to tell them where to get off (or out, if they are actually on the car).

Iceweasel

Cornucopia wrote: »

People who are getting "angry and frustrated" by a temporary hold-up have entirely the wrong attitude to driving. Minor inconveniences are inevitable and drivers need to treat them with calm humility. If other people are putting pressure on you to complete a drive in an unreasonable time limit, you need to tell them where to get off (or out, if they are actually on the car).

I agree completely with you - the OP freely admits to hogging lanes - albeit not for too long - but hogging is like being pregnant or dead - it's either hogging or it's not - no degrees pregnancy or being a little bit dead.

Obviously he felt that others were attempting to pressurize him - but attempting to teach people a lesson by not moving left when the lane is clear is not a good idea.

His use of :mad: and saying that he became belligerent towards the end of his journey shows that he was losing the plot and his cool.

Unless one is a police officer we must allow others to do as they wish as far as exceeding the speed limit is concerned.

I'm frequently overtaken by people travelling at very high speeds - I don't let them inconvenience me - but I wouldn't dream of baulking them.

Cornucopia

I don't agree that it is black & white. We're talking about decisions based on relative speed, and that will always involve a degree of judgement.

I live near the 2-lane section of the M2. (Yes, we still have 2-lane motorways). It's an extremely common experience to pull out into the outside lane to overtake a lorry, when the car behind is way off in the distance, only to have them traveling so fast that they are up sitting on your back bumper before you have finished overtaking - especially if there is more than one lorry.

I'm generally overtaking at 70mph, so there's no real excuse for it.

I accept that it's a job for the Police. However, it isn't one they are staffed to deal with particularly well and in their absence, I'm not keen on sharing the road with people who are driving unpredictably fast, or on their phones, or whatever.

If I'm traveling at or near to 70, and it is safe and necessary to overtake, I will do so. Speeders you have been warned.

Retrogamer

Although people shouldn't be breaking the speed limit, if they are and you pull out in front of them and it causes an accident you're still likely to be found liable from an insurance perspective.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=1511097&mid=388875&nmt=Hit+by+an+unmarked+police+car

Iceweasel

Cornucopia wrote: »

I don't agree that it is black & white. We're talking about decisions based on relative speed, and that will always involve a degree of judgement.

I live near the 2-lane section of the M2. (Yes, we still have 2-lane motorways). It's an extremely common experience to pull out into the outside lane to overtake a lorry, when the car behind is way off in the distance, only to have them traveling so fast that they are up sitting on your back bumper before you have finished overtaking - especially if there is more than one lorry.

I'm generally overtaking at 70mph, so there's no real excuse for it.

I accept that it's a job for the Police. However, it isn't one they are staffed to deal with particularly well and in their absence, I'm not keen on sharing the road with people who are driving unpredictably fast, or on their phones, or whatever.

If I'm traveling at or near to 70, and it is safe and necessary to overtake, I will do so. Speeders you have been warned.

That's exactly my problem in Scotland where the majority of our few motorways are 2-lane.

Of course judgement is needed - do I pull in after overtaking a truck or stay out to pass the next truck which I can see some way up ahead.

My comments were about those who are driving a few mph below the speed limit who stay out in the right lane because they see a truck away up ahead in the distance a long way off.

It would be no inconvenience to them to move to the left, allow others past, and then move out again.

Having discussed this kind of thing with work colleagues the common held idea seems to be that they are reluctant to move left as they fear that it will be difficult or impossible to return to the right lane because of the 'speedy people'.

I've noticed that the further south in England one goes you find the folks who flash lights as they catch you up presumably to deter others from moving into lane 3 to overtake as they are in the middle of an apparently never-ending overtaking manoeuvre at some excessive high speed and are denying others who are driving at legal speeds the opportunity to overtake trucks doing the limited 56mph.

There are a lot of angry impatient people about.

I like to think that I am not one of them - but it is irritating to be held up or held back by inconsiderate self-righteous individuals.

Cornucopia

Retrogamer wrote: »

Although people shouldn't be breaking the speed limit, if they are and you pull out in front of them and it causes an accident you're still likely to be found liable from an insurance perspective.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=10&t=1511097&mid=388875&nmt=Hit+by+an+unmarked+police+car

As I said - when it is safe to do so.

Edwood_Woodwood

rainbowfairydust wrote: »

who are the worst in your area - for sheffield area my choices would be:-

1 - Taxi Drivers
2- BMW drivers
3 - 4x4 drivers/audi drivers

4- rainbowfairydust

A numpty complaining about others on the road !!!!!!!

Learn how to drive on a motorway and understand when a u-turn is legal or not before starting another stupid thread!:rotfl: