Biggest culprits - inconsiderate drivers?

Norman_Castle

matttye wrote: »

People should drive as fast as conditions or law will allow (whichever is the lower of the two).

Because this suits you?.

I do a fair bit of driving and slow drivers really get on my nerves.

There's the real reason slower drivers are disliked. They get on my nerves and spoil my fun but I don't assume I can dictate other peoples driving behavior possibly because I understand I don't own the roads.

matttye

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Because this suits you?.

There's the real reason slower drivers are disliked. They get on my nerves and spoil my fun but I don't assume I can dictate other peoples driving behavior possibly because I understand I don't own the roads.

Because it suits EVERYONE, not just me.

If you drive too fast or at the speed limit, you will only be holding up law breakers.

If you drive too slow, you'll hold up lots of people.

It's selfish.

ElefantEd

matttye wrote: »

In 19 hours I could earn hundreds of pounds.

Therefore, driving slowly goes directly against money saving - the core goal of this site!

:cool:

How much time are you wasting unprofitably posting on the MSE forum?! 4000+ posts at 2 minutes a time means 133 valuable hours - thousands of pounds of earning potential! (I know you'll say that you choose to do this, and you don't choose to waste the 19 hours, but obviously your focus is on making money).

Also, driving at 40mph instead of 60mph uses substantially less fuel. As you drive along behind the slow driver, why not mentally keep a tally of the savings you're making? Soon you'll be seeking out old people with hats driving 28 year old Austin Maestros in a bid to save even more!

Richard53

I have voted for taxi drivers. Only twice in my driving career have I been convinced that another motorist was deliberately trying to kill me, and both times it was a taxi (minicab) driver. Both were parked on the nearside and performed unindicated U-turns in front of me, requiring me to smoke the tyres in an emergency stop if I wanted to remain alive.


Car drivers of any description rarely worried me on the bike, as I always rode defensively, but one guy tried to kill me there, too. I had overtaken him legally and safely, but he chased me at highly illegal speeds for about 4 miles and then tried to run me into a traffic island at a roundabout. BMW, just sayin'.

almillar

alistairq

not every vehicle on the roads has a 60 mph limit

We're clearly talking here about cars that are perfectly capable of 60, so leave that out.

Perhaps you are not visualising the same single carriageway roads as I am?
Slowing down a bit, as suggested.....with constant oncoming traffic? Or, bends where the view ahead is restricted?

No, I'm visualising 'where it's safe to do so' and you're inventing obstacales. Maybe I just put in the great big caveat, which I thought everyone understood - 'you can't always overtake'.

Again, I would suggest that if you're driving along slowly FOR NO BETTER REASON THAN enjoying the scenery, saving fuel, chatting to passengers, and you find someone, or a queue behind you, the COURTEOUS thing, would be to speed up or slow down or stop. Speeding up would work in your scenario above. Anything else is selfish. If you're not confident on twisty roads or whatever, stick to better roads. It's selfish to hold other people up.

ElefantEd - is it worth getting in a tizz? No.
Should we put up with incompetent or selfish or inattentive drivers? No.
mattye counters your point excellently, you could be stuck at any number of sets of traffic lights for minutes at a time if you're stuck behind someone.

People are entitled to drive at whatever speed they like (at or below the posted speed limits)

Not quite - you can be done for dangerous driving for driving too slowly. You wouldn't be for 40 in a 60.
You're saying it's perfectly legal to do, not one person has disagreed with that. It's selfish and you've agreed with that point.

Norman Castle:

because I understand I don't own the roads.

You sure don't. Me neither. Neither does the selfish driver at the front of the queue!
If you want to drive slow, fine. Just not when people are behind you!

TBagpuss

iolanthe07 wrote: »

BMW and Audi drivers are equally inconsiderate. And none of them have any idea how to turn on their indicators

I don't think BMW have got round to fitting their cars with indicators yet.

My sister recently bought a BMW. She claims that there is a section in the manual about indicators which says "not for use", and another which states that the 3rd lane on all motorways is reserved for BMWs and all other vehicles should be reminded they do not belong there.

(she is, in real life, a courteous and considerate driver and well aware of the stereotypes about BMWs)

Avoriaz

Richard53 wrote: »

..Car drivers of any description rarely worried me on the bike, as I always rode defensively, but one guy tried to kill me there, too. I had overtaken him legally and safely, but he chased me at highly illegal speeds for about 4 miles and then tried to run me into a traffic island at a roundabout. BMW, just sayin'.

You must also have been doing highly illegal speeds if he chased you for 4 miles.

Retrogamer

Generally speaking in my area Taxi drivers are by far the worst.

They often block roads to pick up and drop off people (who don't have mobility issues)
Park facing towards traffic at night with headlights still on.

Pull out in front of you from behind parked cars, forcing you to stop even if you have right of way.

The worst one recently was where a taxi driver at night pulled out a give way with no lights on and without looking and nearly knocked me off by bicycle (i had on lights and reflective vest)

There's lots of behaviors that lots of drivers exhibit that annoy me but i find Taxi drivers, at least in my area are the worst

ElefantEd

almillar wrote: »

alistairq

You're saying it's perfectly legal to do, not one person has disagreed with that. It's selfish and you've agreed with that point.

I didn't agree that it was selfish: I agreed that it could be annoying.

As for the traffic light scenario, you really are clutching at straws. So many ifs..... if there isn't anywhere to overtake, if I drove for 200 miles behind the same person going at 40mph, if we get stuck at a string of traffic lights................ ok, I will concede that if all those things happen, you would be right to be aggravated.

But really, how likely is it that all these 'ifs' happen? The most probable scenario if you get stuck behind someone driving more slowly than you would like is that it will add a couple of minutes, if that, to your journey. How many roads are both twisty enough so there is nowhere to overtake safely, yet it's safe to drive at 60mph AND have vast numbers of traffic lights?

And if someone in front of you does slow down and let you past, the odds are you will simply come up behind another slow vehicle (lorry, tractor, old person in hat).

matttye

ElefantEd wrote: »

How much time are you wasting unprofitably posting on the MSE forum?! 4000+ posts at 2 minutes a time means 133 valuable hours - thousands of pounds of earning potential! (I know you'll say that you choose to do this, and you don't choose to waste the 19 hours, but obviously your focus is on making money).

Also, driving at 40mph instead of 60mph uses substantially less fuel. As you drive along behind the slow driver, why not mentally keep a tally of the savings you're making? Soon you'll be seeking out old people with hats driving 28 year old Austin Maestros in a bid to save even more!

I didn't think anyone would take the moneysaving aspect seriously, I was only joking about that

The time wastage is what bothers me.