Biggest culprits - inconsiderate drivers?

iolanthe07

BMW and Audi drivers are equally inconsiderate. And none of them have any idea how to turn on their indicators

I don't think BMW have got round to fitting their cars with indicators yet.

matttye

ElefantEd wrote: »

Following a car doing 40mph for 5 miles, rather than driving at 60mph for the same distance takes you a whole extra 2.5 minutes. And in practice, less than this because you are unlikely to be able to go at 60mph the whole time anyway.

Is it really worth getting into such a tizz for such a short amount of time? Lighten up, you'll enjoy both life and driving a lot more!

Yes, if you drive 40 miles then that's an extra 20 minutes on your journey.

Also, sometimes a slow driver can cause you to miss a green light which delays you even more.

photome

ElefantEd wrote: »

Following a car doing 40mph for 5 miles, rather than driving at 60mph for the same distance takes you a whole extra 2.5 minutes. And in practice, less than this because you are unlikely to be able to go at 60mph the whole time anyway.

Is it really worth getting into such a tizz for such a short amount of time? Lighten up, you'll enjoy both life and driving a lot more!

And if you drive 200 miles (i often do) its an extra 100 mins.

Thats not really the point though

Malmo

I have been driving thousands of miles per annum for many years and I've seen it all. I'd say that taxi and van drivers as categories of driver are the poorest drivers but I don't think I would say that drivers of a particular make or model are any worse or better than others. I'm not a perfect driver, but all of the below are bad and I do not commit any of these as they just infuriate me:

- Failure to indicate BEFORE you actually maneuver. It defeats the objective of indicating if you do both at the same time.

- Not indicating at all when you're supposed to.

- Pulling into a gap between 2 vehicles on a dual carriageway or motorway that isn't there to accommodate another vehicle - it's the space that should be there anyway to maintain a safe distance.

- Taking up too much of the road space when taking the 2nd exit or going straight over a roundabout, thereby cutting up any vehicle to your side which might be going right or left - I see this so often and it is actually quite careless and dangerous.

- Driving too slowly (say less than 50 mph) on an uncongested motorway under good or ideal driving conditions in a car that isn't breaking down.

ElefantEd

matttye wrote: »

Yes, if you drive 40 miles then that's an extra 20 minutes on your journey.

Also, sometimes a slow driver can cause you to miss a green light which delays you even more.

I chose 5 miles because it is rare that you will follow anyone much more than this; many roads with a 60mph limit have somewhere to pass every so often, and it is quite likely that you will simply go different ways at some point.

My point wasn't really that specific though: it was merely to point out that the amount of time 'lost' is miniscule. And I speak as one who lives in a rural area, with many narrow, twisty roads where overtaking is impossible, and where there are often tourists or tractors going slowly. But why get uptight, just go with the flow and accept the fact that a few extra minutes are unlikely to matter to any great extent.

Joe_Horner

photome wrote: »

And if you drive 200 miles (i often do) its an extra 100 mins.

Thats not really the point though

If you don't find a passing opportunity in 200 miles then you really need to be looking at your own abilities rather than the car in front's


That's also not really the point though

matttye

ElefantEd wrote: »

I chose 5 miles because it is rare that you will follow anyone much more than this; many roads with a 60mph limit have somewhere to pass every so often, and it is quite likely that you will simply go different ways at some point.

My point wasn't really that specific though: it was merely to point out that the amount of time 'lost' is miniscule. And I speak as one who lives in a rural area, with many narrow, twisty roads where overtaking is impossible, and where there are often tourists or tractors going slowly. But why get uptight, just go with the flow and accept the fact that a few extra minutes are unlikely to matter to any great extent.

2.5 mins could quite easily matter to someone with an emergency and holding them up for no good reason is very inconsiderate.

People should drive as fast as conditions or law will allow (whichever is the lower of the two).

ElefantEd

matttye wrote: »

2.5 mins could quite easily matter to someone with an emergency and holding them up for no good reason is very inconsiderate.

People should drive as fast as conditions or law will allow (whichever is the lower of the two).

I would put it to you that those whinging about the slow drivers in front of them are not, in general, having an emergency. I've been driving for 35 years and I can't remember more than a handful of occasions, if that, where 2.5 mins would make any difference (the only exceptions being catching a train, and tbh allowing some spare time just in case is common sense and your own fault if you miss a train due to not allowing for small delays).

People are entitled to drive at whatever speed they like (at or below the posted speed limits). Yes, I agree that it can be inconsiderate to drive significantly more slowly than the conditions allow. But it isn't something to get worked up about.

matttye

ElefantEd wrote: »

I would put it to you that those whinging about the slow drivers in front of them are not, in general, having an emergency. I've been driving for 35 years and I can't remember more than a handful of occasions, if that, where 2.5 mins would make any difference (the only exceptions being catching a train, and tbh allowing some spare time just in case is common sense and your own fault if you miss a train due to not allowing for small delays).

People are entitled to drive at whatever speed they like (at or below the posted speed limits). Yes, I agree that it can be inconsiderate to drive significantly more slowly than the conditions allow. But it isn't something to get worked up about.

I beg to differ. I do a fair bit of driving and slow drivers really get on my nerves. I seem to encounter someone on every journey going significantly slower than the conditions allow and holding everybody up. There's no need for it.

When you add up the amount of time wasted sat behind slow drivers in a lifetime, Im sure the average person could've enjoyed days or even weeks more of their lives.

If I'm sat behind a slow driver and waste, say, 5 minutes a day, that's 25 minutes in a working week. If I work, say, 46 weeks in a year bearing in mind holidays and Christmas, bank holidays etc., that's 1150 minutes or 19 hours a year completely wasted.

In 19 hours I could earn hundreds of pounds.

Therefore, driving slowly goes directly against money saving - the core goal of this site!

:cool:

WaywardDriver

ElefantEd wrote: »

Yes, I agree that it can be inconsiderate to drive significantly more slowly than the conditions allow. But it isn't something to get worked up about.

It was my original comment about the slow driver in answer to the original post "Biggest culprits - inconsiderate drivers?" but that doesn't mean I get worked up about them. They're hardly going to endanger my life but inconsiderate drivers who cut in sharply in front of you or are talking on their mobile phones - that's a different story.