Can I lose 1 stone in 2 months?

Gloomendoom

jaylee3 wrote: »

Disagree.

And I would seriously question the ethics and morals of any health professional, dietician, or doctor, that says that a woman of 5 ft 6 who weighs just 8 stone is at a healthy weight. It is not a healthy weight for that height. It's too low.

My friend's daughter is 5 ft 7, and dropped from 12 stone to 8 stone 4, and the doctor told her she was in the 'underweight' zone, and if she loses anymore, she will be in danger of losing muscle. He said if she drops below 8 stone, he will refer her to a counsellor who specialises in eating disorders, because she believed she needed to lose more, and that she needed to get to seven and a half stone!

She has actually balanced out now at a healthy and trim 9 stone 2, and is a size 8 to 10. Under 8 and a half stone, her size 8s were loose.

No way in a million month of Sundays can you - or anyone else - tell me that 8 stone is a healthy weight for a woman who is 5 ft 6.

If the woman is happy with that, then that is her prerogative, but 8 stone is too low a weight for a woman of 5 ft 6, no matter what size her 'frame' is.

With respect, how loose your friend's daughter's clothes are or what her doctor said to her is hardly relevant. My wife just buys clothes that fit, regardless of size and her own doctor is, apparently, perfectly happy with her health.

You may also note that I said my wife was "nearly" two stone lighter, not two stone lighter. 8st 2 is the lowest limit of her "happy" weight.

There was a recent thread on the merits, or otherwise, of using BMI to measure health. If I remember correctly, it was established that BMI is useful at a population level (about 85% of it) but may have less use for individuals. Like my wife, for example.

bsod

Mojisola wrote: »

.:rotfl:

Adding a silly laughing emoticon doesn't indicate the scientific validity of a post. As always with this type of debate, it soon descends into faddy nonsensical "dont eat this but eat that" or "you need to do this type of exercise not that" mode.

People can try to follow all this contradictory guidance, or they can follow the one simple thing proven to work - calorie restriction

FBaby

And I would seriously question the ethics and morals of any health professional, dietician, or doctor, that says that a woman of 5 ft 6 who weighs just 8 stone is at a healthy weight. It is not a healthy weight for that height. It's too low

That's ridiculous. Age alone would have an impact. My DD is 5'7'' and 7 1/2 stone. She is a size 8 and is slim, but certainly not skinny. More importantly, she definitely doesn't have an eating disorder. She does eat like a horse and doesn't have a body image issue. She is very small bones, so I think that's the reason why.

moneysniffer

Ok. So you're a healthy weight for your height - but the way that weight is distributed just ain't doing it for you, and you want to 'tone' up. Been there!

Get yourself into heavy weights. I'm not talking 2kg dumbells and doing 'weight aerobics' or any of that. I mean, take a good look at the Stronglifts or 5x5 program. Barbell squats, deadlifts, as heavy as you can possibly go without sacrificing form. And keep increasing the weight when you can. I went from squats with just the bar (20kg - yes, it's quite embarrassing, but everyone has to start somewhere!) to 55kg in just a few months. Honest to god it's the best thing I ever started doing (I'm female by the way), you'll be surprised at how much you can lift from the beginning, and how quickly you see results. Even better, you don't spend hours sweating over a treadmill, which I absolutely hate.

Yes, it can be intimidating going into the 'man cave' section of the gym. I was intimidated the first time, but it was purely psychological. Nobody gave a monkey's. Set up a decent routine, read up/watch some youtube videos about good form, and maybe get one of the gym instructors to spot your form on your first attempts. And away you go! The thing with this kind of exercise is that you need to make sure you're eating enough calories, and it can take some getting used to. Make sure you're eating healthily and getting enough protein for muscle repair, but do keep track of your calories if you can.

Anyway, I was pointed towards this as an inspiration to start up, and it definitely helped to encourage me to get started: http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/.

I hope this helps in some way, I really would recommend it to everyone. I've seen someone else mentioned weights, and I would wholeheartedly agree with them

Laz123

Dieting doesn't work as a means to losing weight permanently because 99% people put it back on afterwards.

But I've lost a stone in 4 weeks by cutting out all fat. There's recipes for replacing spreads etc.

A mate lost a stone in 4 weeks by cutting out all carbs but eating as much of anything else like meats etc.

Gloomendoom

FBaby wrote: »

That's ridiculous. Age alone would have an impact. My DD is 5'7'' and 7 1/2 stone. She is a size 8 and is slim, but certainly not skinny. More importantly, she definitely doesn't have an eating disorder. She does eat like a horse and doesn't have a body image issue. She is very small bones, so I think that's the reason why.

There's even more to it than that. BMI is such a broad brush. If you take smokers out of the equation, the healthy band gets wider. If you base it on ethnicity, Chinese for example, the upper limit comes down significantly.

SanguineSteve

Get off the Sugar/Salt cycle and the weight just falls off.

Also, a poster way earlier on described exercise as a 'fad'.... LOL

Eat good food. Exercise regularly. It's not rocket science.

Pollycat

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

I want to lose a stone, I weigh just under 10 currently and I hate it.

Is it possible (without taking drugs!) to do it?

Of course it's possible.

But if you mean 'is it possible for me?' that's a whole different question and one that nobody can answer without knowing you and how strong your willpower is.

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

Yes of course, I wouldn't say I eat lots to be honest - infact I know I don't but I do eat bread daily and other carbs I don't need.

So - can you cut down on bread and carbs?

Buzzybee90 wrote: »

Yeah I know I'm not fat, I'm not thin either, I just feel a bit chubby and I don't like it. X

At 5'7" & just under 10 stone, I think targeted exercise is probably what you need most - in conjunction with a review of what you are currently eating.

Fluff15

bsod wrote: »

Adding a silly laughing emoticon doesn't indicate the scientific validity of a post. As always with this type of debate, it soon descends into faddy nonsensical "dont eat this but eat that" or "you need to do this type of exercise not that" mode.

People can try to follow all this contradictory guidance, or they can follow the one simple thing proven to work - calorie restriction

Your posts have literally been the biggest load of codswallop I've seen on weight loss. Just eating less, if you aren't already eating a healthy diet, will cause a small amount of loss but then your body will retain onto fat if you're not getting the nutrients you need.

All calories are not equal. 1500 of refined sugars, high GI carbs and fatty meats is not equal to 1500 of good, non-processed, low GI and lean meats. The OP will look and feel better on the latter, and have an awful time on the other. It isn't 'psuedo-science', it's a proven fact time and time again.

OP - Purpleshoes post of HIIT and high protein, amongst others with similar posts, is one of the best pieces of advice on here.

You are already a healthy weight - focus on losing inches rather than weight. You could lose three inches off your waist if you've built muscle, but still weigh the same! I weigh the most I've ever weighed right now, yet fit in the same clothes, look and feel better in comparison to when I was underweight. Do not focus on weight alone.

Bodybuilding.com is a great resource for fat loss (try here, here and here) and don't let the name put you off. It takes so much hard work to get bulky, it won't happen.

Make small changes - always eat breakfast. Something like an omlette with vegetables, porridge with berries, or greek yoghurt (not low-fat fruit yoghurt, too refined) is a good start to the day. Special K is NO GOOD. It's refined and synthetically puts nutrients back in with loads of sugar.

If you have sandwiches at lunch, swap them out for something like seeded brown or a brown pitta bread, with raw veggie sticks to snack on. Have raw nuts, fruit and vegetables to snack on throughout the day. Avoid bars such as nutrigrain because they're full of crap too.

Swap normal potatoes for sweet potatoes, chips for oven baked wedges, add more vegetables to your bolognaise/curry/chilli, eat as many green leafy vegetables you can in a day without farting all the time!

And don't forget to treat yourself once in a while. What works for me is a 'treat day' where I eat anything I want, guilt free.

Join the gym and start using weights. Or join an exercise class that incorporates weights and cardio. Do it 3/4 times a week. Find something you LOVE or otherwise it will be a chore. I do this and despite the fact that it's cold and muddy, I have the best time and will never stop going.

DigForVictory

Yes you can loose that weight, by a choice of methods.
I'd really go for the toning/shaping exercises first though, in part as I've no idea whether you want to start a family in the coming couple of years. You can annoy your endocrine system pretty seriously with a sudden weight change & if you were even vaguely thinking of children, then definitely tone first and plan to seriously shed later.

All the best with feeling better about yourself soon!