We all need to be heard for a little while.

jobbingmusician

I'm also thinking of you, Georgie. Your penguin made me cry because I remembered my dad and his computer chair, too. It does get better, I promise xxxx
My heart is full of love for my own father, who was a very very special person. I can now remember him with love, celebrating his life, rather than with the pain that I felt when he first died, about 3 years ago.

Stoodles

What a blessing to have had parents you loved, miss and mourn for. That is a gift they gave you

Pyxis

(((((((((Stoodles)))))))))
(((((((Georgie)))))))))
(((((((((WaS)))))))))
(((((((((Jobbingmusician)))))))))
(((((((((Mellymoo)))))))))

Georgiegirl256

Thank you everyone for your lovely words and thoughts.

I didn't fall asleep until 2ish, then I was up for the loo at 5.30, then I didn't really sleep, and got up at 7.15. So I'm worn out. I'm hoping these two coffees will perk me up abit.

Weather is overcast at the moment. Here's hoping it will stay fair, and hopefully get out abit sunnier.

Pyxis

Regular Etiquette repost

Pyxis wrote: »

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Here is the suggested THREAD ETIQUETTE. By following this etiquette, all posters, whether new or existing, will feel safe, unpressured and respected..

- This is a thread for support. We have discovered some good friends on here, but we promise always to welcome and include new people, and not to be cliquey.

- People may make suggestions to help each other, and might even ask if the suggestions were helpful or have been carried out, but we'll really try not to nag each other or put too much pressure on.

- The normal board rules about sexism, racism, homophobia etc. apply, but if we are careful we should be able to discuss almost anything without breaching board rules - so far we have discussed subjects ranging from child abuse to incontinence!

-If someone thinks that too much pressure is being applied, they can post the trigger word PENGUIN and flag up the fact that they believe there's a potential for someone feeling too nagged to do something. ANYONE could post PENGUIN if they felt there was a danger that suggestions were being enforced too much.

Similarly, if they want to discuss something that might be a trigger for some people, then posting PENGUIN would be a warning that what follows in the whiteout might be a trigger.


- So, if you think something might be a PENGUIN, please post something like the green bit which follows.

"I would like to discuss something to do with [insert subject here], but I am concerned that this might be a trigger for some people. Is everyone OK if I post about that?"

Then, when you post, repost the word PENGUIN above the discussion. Then post the penguiny bit in white! And the phrase END OF PENGUIN when you have finished.

It will look like this. You will be able to see the white text if you highlight it or if you quote it, (so please don't 'quote' a post containing a penguin onto the thread!)
(Harmless example follows here):-
PENGUIN

This is a penguin. A nasty, crotch biting penguin (CBP).
It isn't really! So you can look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozGTv0hxhpc[/url]


END OF PENGUIN

(NB on a tenth-page repost of the etiquette, you can see these penguiny words because they are white against the green 'quote' background. On a normal post, they will be white against white, and so won't be seen on the thread.)

IMPORTANT: It has been ascertained that some posters to this thread have found that there are certain subjects which act as triggers, precipitating a worsening of their condition.
To protect these posters, you are respectfully requested NOT to discuss these subjects on this thread:-

Religion. (Please note: it is recognised that everyone is entitled to their beliefs, and we respect those beliefs. It is only because of the fact that religion does act as a trigger for some posters, that we exclude it from discussion.)
N.B. Please don't even mention the name of the religion.

The afterlife. The reason for this is explained in this thread by one poster, and there will be others for whom this is a trigger.

We ask and thank you for your co-operation in this matter.


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It should be pointed out that if anyone is feeling very distressed or close to a crisis, they do not have to worry about what they are posting, or whether it is a penguin for someone else or not. In a crisis situation, just post! We wouldn't want anyone to feel that they couldn't ask for help in case it's a penguin! The penguin thing only applies to a general discussion situation.

- More suggestions please.............We stress that we are suggesting that we AGREE some Thread Etiquette to HELP people who might feel anxious about posting, we are not trying to IMPOSE rules, just relating this to facilitating groups, so that people feel safe and able to participate as fully as they can.

...............Thread Motto...............
Nos Omnes Ad Audiendum Parumper

Stoodles

I need something - probably not a hug. Possibly a kick or some wise words?
On Thursday my psychologist and I agreed that we need to recognise I have an additional condition. Logically I can see it fits, but afterwards I stood in the sunshine shivering as I waited for the bus, and even now I'm still reeling. My brain just glances off the subject when I try to think about it.
I keep telling myself - nothing has changed, its just a label for what I have lived. But it feels so disturbing.

jobbingmusician

Really, nothing HAS changed - labels in mental health are notoriously unreliable!

Am I right that you feel that you now have two horrid things attached to you, instead of one? It's not like that, in reality. You are you are you are you! And the two things that probably feel like leeches hanging off 'you' are part of you* which you can work on, and get help with (hopefully!). Inside you is a powerhouse of wellbeing, love and power. If you can liberate and recognise this inner strength, you can work on integrating all your life experiences into a complete whole to match the lovely person we have met on here. ((((Stoodles))))

*and we all have them!

whitewing

Georgie,

Am thinking of you today.

Stoodles,

Every time I got an actual diagnosis, it took me a few weeks to become a 'person' again, rather than the 'label'. Labels seem so huge that there doesn't seem to be any room left over for the personality.

I was really dreading my exercise class last week because it was the first time I had seen the instructor since I told her about my mh. I was pretty sure that she would have told the other instructor too (partly for insurance considerations). They both treated me exactly the same as normal - with professionalism and kindness but also toughness based on what they had observed I needed from a martial arts point of view. I will elaborate on this later as I want to ask for other people's experiences/opinions on something.

Stoodles

Well,JM, I was using bubonic plague rather than leeches as the analogy. The original diagnosis seemed pretty reasonable, and was a relief because it meant I wasn't just falling apart for no good reason. But This one feels much more like crazy

Whitewing - it's good to hear someone else shares my experience. I don't think the Pysch. realised I was reeling so much, so she just went ahead while I was visualising buboes emerging al over my body

mellymoo74

Sleeping porky or trouble as she is otherwise known