Suspended from work, HELP!

FBaby

Can i just get it clear that my daughter being ill is completely relevant to me being off on thursday as well! I was going to go into work on thursday but it was unexpected, therefore I need to explain this as to why I missed thursday

That's incorrect. The reason why you are being disciplined is because you've lied to them. Whether you lied to them for one day or two is irrelevant, if you'd lied for just one hour, the offense would remain as it is.

If anything, it will make it look worse because it will show that once again, you are trying to dodge the real issue and that is that you lied to get your own way expecting to get away with it. You didn't.

I think the outcome will very much depend on the attitude of the council towards this kind of offense. There are so many people who pretend to be ill, or in an emergency situation so they can indulge their social life. Everybody really knows it, but usually, people are smart enough to do it in a way that they don't get caught. If this is the case for your council, they might see this as an opportunity to make a point to everyone.

If however it is not an issue with the council as people are genuinely honest, they might be more incline to sympathise, that is assuming they consider you a valuable member of the team and losing you would be more detrimental to them then keeping you and the message this gives to the other employers.

As far as I know though, councils are quite tough with issues of honesty and rightly so. You can keep on giving messages to the public about honesty (benefits, HB, council taxes etc...) but then not punishing their own employees when they clearly abuse that trust. I do wish you good luck, but as it's been mentioned, I would definitely start looking for other jobs asap.

Icequeen99

OP - I understand that you need to show evidence re your daughter to cover the Thursday.

However, I am intrigued as to what your plan was had your daughter not taken ill? Presumably you didn't know that was going to happen, yet you obviously still planned on going away Thursday afternoon and taking the Friday off.

Up until the point your daughter took ill on Thursday morning - what were you going to say to work?

IQ

Spicy_McHaggis

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

OP talking from experience (ive had 1000's of admissions over my lifetime) I can 99.9% surely tell you that your daughter would have had an admissions slip and GP letter (including diagnosis any medication prescribed during her stay the yellow copy of the ambulance forms and her OBS chart) given to her by the hospital A&E staff on her discharge to give directly to her GP surgery.


If NOT and this is rare, as they always do every time I have been in anyways, then your daughter can obtain a copy of her medical report of that days admission upon request for a small charge (usually no more than Data protection admin charge of no more than £10) by signing a patient confidentiality release form at the GP surgery.
From what you describe you have requested a whole hard copy of her medical file that costs £50.00 to administer from the hospital and can take upto 30 days to compile!.


I suggest you take your daughter to the daughter to the GP's surgery Monday and request the admission sheets from that day and pay the admin charge.


this will prove Thursday morning, but doesn't abscond you from the thurs afternoon into friday when you weren't permitted to have time off.


it MAY put a little bit of credibility to your case, but overall I think its better that you also pull out your employment contract and employee handbook, and spend a little to get a union rep on the case and hand them your employment contract to peer over to see if your limited by such social media clauses.


I would be writing down key strong points of BOTH your jobs with the council, and that your employment record is clean and that you made a bad judgment call to ignore the employers request.


TBH the council will have to weigh up that if they sack you, how much will it cost them to replace you in both roles, to them it maybe a non viable solution as they will have to retrain and advertise,interview and look for two people and thus spending out on 2 salaries rather than keep you and pay you a single salary in both roles.

OP the union may help you but would be within their rights to say no.

Deleted_User wrote: »

I am not in a union but have spoken to several different companies including ACAS which was not of any help to me at all

redpete

JustOnce wrote: »

Personally OP, I wouldn't get dragged into justifying this to people who are just trying to judge you.

Some of them are not even offering advice, they're just holding Kangaroo court.

But if people on here are confused and suspect the OP might not be telling the whole truth then her employer might think the same if she gives them the same info. Better to find that out on here before having to explain it to the employer.

pinkshoes

I think the whole hospital thing is a red herring and of no use other than explaining why you were not there on THURSDAY...

The crux will be that on FRIDAY, you were planning to skive as your unpaid leave had been declined, and you left to go on holiday Thursday night. You then just used your daughter's illness as an excuse for Fridays absence.

If your daughter hadn't been ill, what were you planning on telling work about not being there on Friday?

Either way, you have been caught out lying... All you can do is grovel, apologise and BEG, pointing out your perfect record up until now.

If your profile is set to private, then SOMEONE on your friend list dislikes you enough to tip work off. This would worry me.

Undervalued

Deleted_User wrote: »

I was almost 100% sure I had blocked and made everything private.I could not cancel the trip because we would of lost out on £2000 and it was my fiance that mixed dates up with my non contract week.

So you decided to lie to your employer and have been found out so now risk losing a great deal more. Quite a lesson there.

Your one and only option here is to grovel and hope that, in their minds, your previous good service outweighs this serious breach of trust.

It might or might not work, who knows.

Also, how they found out is irrelevant. As is demonstrated here all too often social media and employment simply don't mix. But even without that you could have been caught. For all you knew somebody else from the same employer could have been, quite legitimately, at the same resort.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

OP the union may help you but would be within their rights to say no.

so ACAS said no, how about the rest, just because one said no is not a default no for others is it. NIdirect, GMB, Unison to name a few. its worth a try calling around to be represented after paying a subscription fee.

suicidebob

JustOnce wrote: »

Personally OP, I wouldn't get dragged into justifying this to people who are just trying to judge you.

Some of them are not even offering advice, they're just holding Kangaroo court.

Why do you think judging someone based on their actions is a problem?

tea_lover

Personally I'd leave your daughter out of this. You were never planning on going to work on Thursday (or at least Thursday pm) or Friday. Dragging your ill daughter into this as a poor excuse makes it look worse.

RuthnJasper

Any update or further news, Dazed? Hope your daughter is ok. x