Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

black_taxi_2

me thinks you confuse hate English with Westminster

Generali

baldelectrician wrote: »

Thanks for bringing up the oil;

Don't mention it. I doubt you'll thank me a second time but you are really very welcome.

baldelectrician wrote: »

Two scenarios-
1. Scotland as part of the UK (8.4% population, 10% spending) gets $10 per barrel - at $100 per barrel


2. Scotland (not part of the UK, with oil price at $50) gets 90% of the revenue (geographical share), then $10 a barrel becomes $45

Unless the Scottish Government is going to nationalise BP, Shell and the rest of the companies operating in the North Sea than profits will go to shareholders of those companies not to the Scottish Government.

What the Scottish Government would get on independence is taxation on those revenues plus licence fees.

As BP etc. make a loss on getting oil from the North Sea they pay no tax plus they are accruing tax credits so they can offset current losses against future profits.

It's idiots like you that make me think that a two year period of fiscal independence is required prior to Scottish independence. Without that the flood of Scots heading south to use the English NHS would be overwhelming. Scottish people that want independence without poverty need the opportunity to change their minds for the sake of people living in the North of England.

Rinoa

baldelectrician wrote: »

Thanks for bringing up the oil;


Two scenarios-
1. Scotland as part of the UK (8.4% population, 10% spending) gets $10 per barrel - at $100 per barrel


2. Scotland (not part of the UK, with oil price at $50) gets 90% of the revenue (geographical share), then $10 a barrel becomes $45


So $45 is more than $10 (unless you went to school somewhere that didn't do good arithmetic)

Sorry to break this to you, but the oil doesn't belong to Scotland, it belongs to the oil companies, who spend quite a bit finding and bringing it to shore from under the ocean.

Current tax revenues are therefore very low. Just over £100m for Q1 2015 ~ or just over £20 per head.

elantan

.string. wrote: »

It's very difficult to debate with butterfly minds who don't read / understand posts, so I'll keep this brief.

Previously I have my own outlook and all I got was blathering about entirely different issues; I emphasised that on the matter of "cross border dislike" there were those on both sides that disliked the other but made it clear that I thought the cult of dislike has a traditional basis in Scotland but not in England.

I also made it clear that I was British more than English. In previous posts I've also said that I dislike the prospect of being shunted into an allegiance that excludes Scotland.

How can I take seriously fluffy protestations of non-hatred when yet again I see a comment like this:



"Repulses" - the message is clear.


So does such a statement go hand in hand with repulsion of the Scots, English, Welsh and Irish, or does the mindset exclude the Scots with the venom reserved for the other countries, or just England?

You clearly didn't read the full thing ... the British flag repulses me ... not the English Welsh Irish or Scottish flags ... I like each country and it's people ... but as a collection no I don't like it ... but hey make it all about England again cause we all know only England is Britain ... or at least you think so when you connect England and only England to my hatred of the British flag


Your just not getting it at all ... shame really but hey your loss

black_taxi_2

this should be a good watch


Coming up after 11am – @kdugdalemsp will be on @SkyMurnaghan setting out her plan for more autonomy for @scottishlabour.

elantan

black_taxi wrote: »

me thinks you confuse hate English with Westminster

There seems to be a few that post on here that do ... try as much as we do to make them understand it all ... it just doesn't seem to penetrative their brain ...

Generali

elantan wrote: »

1. Yes there are SNP members that hate the English ... Nicola is trying g to weed them out but can only do so when they show their true colours
2. I am not positive but I imagine it will be a similar % as the English that hate the Scottish ... so I reckon 1-1.5% or so
3. I have not got a clue as to why England chooses not to have a party that wants the union break up but I can guess if you like ?


There that wasn't hard at all ... don't know why you got yer knockers in a twist answering mine but hey ho

Nothing is twisted and your answers are crap.

Never mind. One day you'll get independence for Scotland and you'll be very glad to live in England. Perhaps you'll even give up the Cod Celt thing.

elantan

Nah mate ahm off to France as soon as I can afford it

elantan

Generali wrote: »

Nothing is twisted and your answers are crap.

Never mind. One day you'll get independence for Scotland and you'll be very glad to live in England. Perhaps you'll even give up the Cod Celt thing.

There not crap I answer to the best of my ability ... I just couldnt answer q3 as I don't know ... but hey can I help it of you don't get the answers you wanted ...

black_taxi_2

Cod Celt thing.???