Bigoted "friend"

Pollycat

burlington6 wrote: »

Haha, well said. It reminds me of people who love multicultural Britain until a group of travelers sets up near then or one by one the houses down their street are bought by people who aren't white. They always cry about it or end up moving

Nobody worse than NIMBYs. :rotfl:

Lily-Rose_3

burlington6 wrote: »

Haha, well said. It reminds me of people who love multicultural Britain until a group of travelers sets up near then or one by one the houses down their street are bought by people who aren't white. They always cry about it or end up moving

Oh that is DEFINITELY true!

All these left wing celebs and famous folk who bang on about how 'right-on' they are, and how we should all be more tolerant of other cultures, are always crowing about this from their fancy mansions in white middle-class Britain. :rotfl:

The same extends to ordinary folk: they will blather on about political correctness and what a bigot you are if you are a supporter of UKIP or if you don't hate them, but then they will cry like a baby if some Romanian travellers set up camp over the road.

This puts me in mind of my daughter's uber PC pal at uni. My daughter is a bit PC, (I think many are at that age,) but this girl takes the biscuit: you can't say ANYTHING. She is all snooty and judgemental about ANYone who isn't a leftie like her, and attacks ANYone who has any view that she doesn't agree with.

Earlier this year, a girl came from Ghana to stay in their flat at uni (there had been a spare room since January when a girl left.)

Well this uber-PC flatmate of my daughter's HATED this girl, as she had completely different ways of doing things, and she was messy and left the kitchen a tip some days, and she used to burn incenses in her room. After about 6 weeks, this uber-PC girl said to the others 'this is too much now; how are we gonna get rid of this 'smelly ******?' :eek: (I have refrained from putting the word she used.)

So much for being tolerant. She was OK with ethnic minorities as long as none were anywhere near her. Like many uber PC people.

My daughter is quite PC, but she was so disgusted by what this flatmate had said, that she could barely look at her again, and she was glad when she left the flat in June!

Cyberman60

I've followed this thread and not yet contributed, as I do not consider having an aversion to unlimited immigration to be bigoted, racist etc.
It appears that people who dislike people such as myself that have thought this serious issue through and want sensible controls on immigration are actually the bigots.

People who support UKIP simply want what they see is best for the country and thus themselves, and that means controls on immigration in order to preserve and allocate limited resources such as the NHS, schools, housing, welfare etc for those that have contributed to them within our country, and not handed out free to the rest of the world for votes.

We are by a long way the second most heavily populated country in Europe to Holland, even though we are an island. Let's let the rest of Europe catch us up on population per square kilometre and then they'll earn the right to criticise us !!

Ziggazee

I think the issue here is more yours than hers OP. You're the one responding and getting wound up. People have the right to their own views. Let her have hers and ignore those views. Why waste time arguing with her and getting yourself wound up.

purpleshoes_2

I dont support UKIP nor the BNP, that doesn't make me one of the loony left, it makes me support a political party whose views I respect. Lets not all lump people into being either one thing or another. If people have left wing views that doesn't make them "loony". I know some very ordinary down to earth people who are socialist and so what? Not every single socialist figurehead I agree with, in fact some of the most idiotic people Ive ever met have been socialist bandwagon jumpers who just want to get as much notoriety for themselves and as much money as well.

My issue with UKIP is they don't seem to know what their own policies are. I read yesterday that Farage has said he wants to abolish the NHS. They've also made some ridiculous statements in the press about women, some of their supporters don't seem to engage their brain or mouth before they speak.

I dont like seeing facebook pages such as Britain First on my facebook page, other people might not think some of the sentiments are racist but I do, however that's my opinion and other people don't need to share it.

I come from a long line of Labour voters, but I havent voted Labour in a long time and I joined the SNP after the referendum. I have people on my facebook who I know and like who still support Labour, their choice. If they get fed up with me posting stuff I see on my news feed on my timeline about the SNP, then all they need to do is hide it, it doesn't mean we can't be friends.

I actually rarely talk about politics with my friends but if someone posted something on their facebook page that I considered offensive to me. Id hide it. So if the OP doesn't like UKIP and doesn't want to see her friend or ex friend post about it, she can hide the posts or unfriend. Totally her choice.

I couldnt give a monkeys about political correctness and my views are my views, politics is something I rarely talk about with friends anyway.

But on a wider scale, facebook can be a pain in the backside anyway and if people do want to hide, unfriend people, then fill their boots, Ive had people unfriend me, Ive unfriended people, no big deal.

purpleshoes_2

BunnieJ wrote: »

I may not have been clear. I went on FB, daw she had shared a Britain First video and was spouting more carp, so then I unfollowed her. I didn't unfollow her and then go back to her profile. That would be silly!

I don't know much about politics, but I do know idiots like this are making a real difference by voting for awful parties like UKIP/BNP

I dont like Britain first as a facebook page. Ive also had friends of mine who have completely opposite political views remove people from their facebook page for sharing Britain First videos. Their choice.

You dont need to know everything about any political party you object to to know you don't want to vote for them. I don't know what Labours entire manifesto will be for the general election for example, but I know enough about them as a whole to know I won't vote for them again.

Some people might think Britain first is a fabulous facebook page, I think its a bunch of racist questionable tosh, but that's just my opinion. Its the same as Katie Hopkins comments about Palestine, I thought they were shocking, I saw people queuing up on facebook to praise her. You dont need to explain why you made the choice you did, you made it and if that's the best choice for you, then fine.

If you wanted to unfriend her because you were sick of seeing her spout that stuff on her facebook and you felt strongly about the message behind it, totally your choice.

Some people think UKIP are the answer to everyones prayers, but given that it looks like there will be a Tory/UKIP coalition or a Labour/UKIP coalition after the next election, Id say the first more likely then we will soon know what its like to be governed by them.

purpleshoes_2

Here is our pick of the most ridiculous - and abusive - Ukip quotes to date:
1. David Silvester, who called homosexuality a "spiritual disease", said: "Since the passage of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act, the nation has been beset by serious storms and floods. One recent one caused the worst flooding for 60 years. The Christmas floods were the worst for 127 years. Is this just global warming or is there something more serious at work?"
Godfrey Bloom had the whip removed in 2013 after calling female Ukip members "sluts"

2. In an investigation led by the Sunday Mirror, Dr Julia Gasper said: "As for the links between homosexuality and !!!!!philia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the !subject."
3. Speaking on the same issue, Ukip member Jan Zolyniak claimed: "The evidence is quite clear that the percentage of homosexuals who molest children is very high and cannot be dismissed."
4. Douglas Denny, of the Bognor Regis branch in West Sussex, said homosexuals have "leftie, neo-commie followers". He said: "I just wish they would keep their !homosexual nature and practices to !themselves and stop trying to ram it down my throat telling me they are 'normal' when they are not."
5. It wouldn't be a complete list without the wisecracking Godfrey Bloom. The Yorkshire and Humber MEP had the whip removed in September 2013, after a recording emerged of him joking that a group of Ukip women who did not clean behind their fridges were "sluts".
Related

• Nigel Farage Explains Why Women Are 'Worth Less' Than Men
• #UkipWeather: Twitter Hits Back After Ukip's David Silvester Blamed UK Floods on Gay Marriage
• Ukip Suspends David Silvester for Gay Marriage Comments

6. In August, Bloom came under fire after referring to countries that received government aid as "Bongo Bongo Land". He claimed that UK aid was being spent on fighter planes in Pakistan, as well as luxury sunglasses. He said: "How we can possibly be giving £1bn a month, when we're in this sort of debt, to Bongo Bongo Land is completely beyond me."
7. Stuart Agnew, Ukip MEP for the East of England, suggested that women lacked the ambition to succeed because children got in the way. Following the footsteps of Bloom, he argued: "If you look at the people who get degrees more, women get them and they are getting the jobs in the workplace but for various reasons they don't have the ambition to go right to the top because something gets in the way. It's called a baby."
UKIP leader Nigel Farage said women were "worth less" than men in business

8. Speaking on BBC Radio 4's The World At One in August, Stuart Wheeler, party treasurer, said women were "nowhere near as good as men" at chess, bridge and poker.
9. Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader said women with children were "worth less" than men in the financial sector. He claimed women with children were responsible for their own reduction in pay if they have children – because they take maternity leave and become less valuable to their businesses.
10. Farage also prioritised lower economic growth and a poorer Britain over an increase in migrants in the UK. "The social side of this matters more than pure market economics," he said.


Well, the bongo bongo land comment did it for me I get that a lot of people are voting UKIP as they are sick of the Tories (and being opposed to just about every single Tory policy there is, I don't blame them)


But if the OP is getting flak for referring to UKIP as racist, these quotes might suggest that some of the people in the party are not only racist but sexist and homophobic as well and I personally wouldn't vote for a party with values like that, no matter if there were other policies I agreed with.

purpleshoes_2

Pollycat wrote: »

If you think so.

Maybe my post wouldn't have been so condescending if the OP hadn't said UKIP supporters must be from under a rock....

Not that I've ever voted UKIP, but maybe the OP - who has already acknowledged she doesn't know a lot about politics- should do a bit of research before posting.

Well Ive just posted ten of their more memorable quotes on the thread and I bet there's many more where they came from, hopefully that will help her decide if shes made the right decision in getting rid of her mate off facebook:rotfl:

Chia

Pollycat wrote: »

Have you actually done any research into either BNP or UKIP?

Or are you just spouting stuff you've read in the paper or heard on TV?

I'd just like to know how informed your opinions are.

Over 21,000 people in Clacton didn't consider UKIP to be so awful, did they? :rotfl:

LOL @ Georgirgirl's comment on the rest of your post (which I haven't quoted).

FWIW, I'm not championing UKIP.
Just disagreeing with your comments.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
You just come across as someone who thinks your opinion is the only right one.
And in my book, that makes you as bad as your (unfollowed) FB 'friend'. You both have opinions that you try to force onto others.

Great logic. And millions of Germans didn't think Hitler so awful in WWII Germany, so there.

The "opinions" about banksters and this government's demonisation of the sick and the poor? That is verifiable FACT, whether or not this is convenient for you to acknowledge. A bit different from people supporting far-right parties whose members keep getting in trouble for letting their racism/misogyny show and who want to repeal basic labour rights.

People of different colours / vagina-havers not being equal, and shrugging at workers being exploited for their labour - THAT'S opinion. And yeah, if people want to hold those opinions, they can. But it's going to become a pretty messed-up country if ignorant people keep latching on to figures like Farage.

fizz

purpleshoes wrote: »

Well Ive just posted ten of their more memorable quotes on the thread and I bet there's many more where they came from, hopefully that will help her decide if shes made the right decision in getting rid of her mate off facebook:rotfl:

The original point was - my 'not' friend is a bigot-what should I do?

It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the OP being a Drama Queen! Hide, Ignore, Unfriend, Block....sorted!
But, as the OP is a DQ, she has to come on here and make a scene and the bait is taken:T

But hey ho, it's a free country and no-one has said she's a troll, so that's progress:T