Car insurance question, tax disc

Tilt

Norman_Castle wrote: »

The DVLA can monitor vehicles with a camera on a tripod carried in an estate car. If the police can have working ANPR camera systems in cars then so can the DVLA.

No doubt they do. But not as often as they need to. The new system to be frank is just a big con to save on administration and the printing of tax discs. In my opinion it will simply increase the number of people who don't tax their vehicles as they are now 'invisible' without a disc on the screen. There are those among us who buy a used car and then provide false keeper details to the DVLA thus escaping any automatic fines or penalties. At least the disc gave a clue to the legality of the vehicle.

Iceweasel

Some very good constructive advice in this thread which I'm very happy to see as several threads recently have degenerated into berating the OP concerned for allowing the situation to arrive in the first place.

Norman_Castle

The new system to be frank is just a big con to save on administration and the printing of tax discs.

Who is being conned?. Its taxpayers money which is being saved.

Tilt

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Who is being conned?. Its taxpayers money which is being saved.

And tax payers money being lost in more untaxed cars on the road. Do you honestly believe that that the number of untaxed cars will decrease under the new system? That is where the con is because the DVLA want us to believe that it will.

The reality is quite different though, especially on the Isle of Wight. The DVLA visit the Island about once very 2 years to carry out enforcement. I personally reported an un-taxed car parked in a street for over 3 YEARS before anything was done about it. Under the new system this is no longer possible unless you go to the bother of checking on-line.

societys_child

Tilt wrote: »

there is currently NO DVLA presence OR ANPR cameras been installed anywhere on the Island to detect untaxed vehicles.

Are there no police cars on the IoW?

Tilt

societys_child wrote: »

Are there no police cars on the IoW?

The police don't deal with car tax. HOWEVER it can provide a reason for them to stop someone IF they are in a car equipped with ANPR. They then would pass the details on to the DVLA in relation to the vehicle being used without tax.

But if you live out in the sticks, you can go weeks without seeing a police car.

FiremanDave

Tilt wrote: »

The police don't deal with car tax. HOWEVER it can provide a reason for them to stop someone IF they are in a car equipped with ANPR. They then would pass the details on to the DVLA in relation to the vehicle being used without tax.

But if you live out in the sticks, you can go weeks without seeing a police car.

They don't need ANPR.

Tilt

FiremanDave wrote: »

They don't need ANPR.

No? How are they going to instantly know whether a car is taxed or not then? Yes, they can do a PNC check, but will they bother unless something else gets their attention?

Previously they would usually look at the tax disc as the vehicle drove past as the initial reason to stop someone.

FiremanDave

Tilt wrote: »

No? How are they going to instantly know whether a car is taxed or not then? Yes, they can do a PNC check, but will they bother unless something else gets their attention?

Previously they would usually look at the tax disc as the vehicle drove past as the initial reason to stop someone.

Or run a pnc check.;) but then they don't need a reason to stop someone.

A lot turn off the tax data base anyway as its a pita.

societys_child

Tilt wrote: »

The police don't deal with car tax.

Yes they do, it can lead to other offences.

HOWEVER it can provide a reason for them to stop someone

Exactly.

IF they are in a car equipped with ANPR.

Thought the reason they'd done away with the disc was because they all are, even the unmarked ones.

They then would pass the details on to the DVLA in relation to the vehicle being used without tax.

But if you live out in the sticks, you can go weeks without seeing a police car.

Possibly, but remember, untaxed, un-sorned vehicles are on the data base.

A friend of mine, Bob the cop (high pursuit, firearms trained etc) got himself a cushy number. Sat at the side of a busy main road, in an unmarked car with a laptop on the passenger seat and camera on the dashboard, reading newspapers.

Every time the laptop bleeped, he radioed the details and reg number to the gang of motorcycle cops a mile down and the car was pulled.
The database on the laptop was updated at the start of every shift from the DVLA and the PNC.

This is a few years ago, before police vehicles were routinely fitted with ANPR.


You're a little behind the times . . .