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  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    I never understood how a candlestick maker made money. Assume people would visit the butcher and baker regularly, but why would you need new candlesticks?

    For your lighting needs!
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    I imagine it was just to rhyme.... and candlestick makers also sell candles.

    Butcher, baker, candle shop doesn't rhyme.

    I'd imagine candles would have been bought at a pharmacy in reality .... isn't it funny what the NP thread makes you think about. I bet they made candles as they've got the space for mixing stuff up.

    Beekeepers made candles, so any one who kept bees or bought beeswax from bee keepers I guess? It would make sense that candle stick makers sold candles too, not necessarily made by the candlestick maker....
  • LydiaJ
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    I imagine it was just to rhyme.... and candlestick makers also sell candles.

    Butcher, baker, candle shop doesn't rhyme.

    I'd imagine candles would have been bought at a pharmacy in reality .... isn't it funny what the NP thread makes you think about. I bet they made candles as they've got the space for mixing stuff up.

    The word for a candle maker is a chandler. If everybody's lighting their homes with candles, loads would be needed, so it would support a business in its own right - I imagine they also sold cheap candlesticks, lamps, and oil to go in the lamps, while posh candlesticks would come from a silversmith etc, but I don't actually know. My impression is that they were separate from apothecaries (pharmacies), who dealt with herbs and various quack medicines that didn't usually work (and might kill you). But again, I don't really know.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,502 Forumite
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    Hopefully, we can agree on what the butcher and baker did?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • PasturesNew
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    Beekeepers made candles, so any one who kept bees or bought beeswax from bee keepers I guess? It would make sense that candle stick makers sold candles too, not necessarily made by the candlestick maker....

    That'd make sense. Bees.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Hopefully, we can agree on what the butcher and baker did?

    Which sort of butcher?

    I loved next to a horse specialist butcher in Milan. :). :D

    And boulangere v patissiere compared to British 'baker'? Hmmm. Its tough GDb, tough old world where these lines are drawn ;)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    That'd make sense. Bees.

    The bees don't actually make candles. :D

    Now beeswax candles are hugely expensive in comparison. Bee clubs have shows in which so e of the classes are for different types of candles of different sizes.

    Beeswax candles have a beautiful mellifluous scent and burn beautifully.


    Nowadays cheaper waxes are used more for candles....stuff that takes other scent and colour better is both more popular and easier on the wallet, and beeswax has other uses. But beeswax candles are beautiful.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    The bees don't actually make candles. :D

    Now beeswax candles are hugely expensive in comparison. Bee clubs have shows in which so e of the classes are for different types of candles of different sizes.

    Beeswax candles have a beautiful mellifluous scent and burn beautifully.

    Nowadays cheaper waxes are used more for candles....stuff that takes other scent and colour better is both more popular and easier on the wallet, and beeswax has other uses. But beeswax candles are beautiful.

    Beeswax candles have always been expensive. Before there was wax from crude oil (which is what most candles are made from now, I'm fairly sure) posh people had beeswax candles (which smelt nice) and poor people had tallow ones (which, err, didn't). Tallow is a rendered form of beef or mutton fat, so maybe we can't be so sure it wasn't the butcher making the candles!!
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Beeswax candles have always been expensive. Before there was wax from crude oil (which is what most candles are made from now, I'm fairly sure) posh people had beeswax candles (which smelt nice) and poor people had tallow ones (which, err, didn't). Tallow is a rendered form of beef or mutton fat, so maybe we can't be so sure it wasn't the butcher making the candles!!

    Some sort of soya or something is popular now.

    Yeah.....tallow! I've made tallow candles.
  • michaels
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Beeswax candles have always been expensive. Before there was wax from crude oil (which is what most candles are made from now, I'm fairly sure) posh people had beeswax candles (which smelt nice) and poor people had tallow ones (which, err, didn't). Tallow is a rendered form of beef or mutton fat, so maybe we can't be so sure it wasn't the butcher making the candles!!

    Weren't whales involved at some point?
    I think....
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