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zagubov

LydiaJ wrote: »

And if announcements about health in general are often contradictory, announcements about diet are even worse - frequently based on nothing deserving the title of "evidence" at all.

That's true. In wartime they had a Ministry of Food that worked out what you needed for optimal health and rationed food out to achieve it. Got it right more often than not.

My maths teacher used to go on about "linear programming" winning the war which I believe was a fancy name for producing graphs to work out the minimum amounts of everything everybody needed to have.

Generali

The best dietary advice I've ever heard? "Eat mostly vegetables, not too much".

Chocolate is a vegetable for the purposes of my diet and wine is a fruit.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

The best dietary advice I've ever heard? "Eat mostly vegetables, not too much".

Chocolate is a vegetable for the purposes of my diet and wine is a fruit.

You would have enjoyed Poppy9's weekly diet I posted a few threads back!
:beer:

Generali

zagubov wrote: »

You would have enjoyed Poppy9's weekly diet I posted a few threads back!
:beer:

I suspect most people would.:j

It reminds me of the old Tommy Cooper(?) joke. I'm on a whisky diet. I've lost 3 weeks already.

Generali

Quick lesson in Aussie slang:

To root (v) ru:t: to have sexual intercourse.

I decided to get the ferry today as it's my last day of work before Xmas and we happenes to go past a WiFi node (?) called Router? I hardly knew her.

vivatifosi

Generali wrote: »

Sounds like good news overall ukmaggie.

For oily fish, those farmed trout can be nice especially if you bake them in foil with a splash of white wine and a little thyme or dill.

Two great ways to improve your diet:

1. Have a small bowl of salad as a starter before your mains
2. Have a handful of whatever berries are cheap after each meal

That's my plan for 2015. Berries are quite aggressively priced in Aus so I might have to have frozen rather than fresh.

The one I've been sticking to is that if your dinner looks pretty then it's good for you. The point was made that a lot of food that is bad for you or that you don't want to eat too much of is beige or brown. So if you eat a riot of colours (I guess this presupposes you aren't eating lots of different flavour jelly) then you necessarily take on lots of food that's healthy. If I can be bothered, I try to plan food bingo, taking on some red, green, yellow, Orange and purple each day. Your way sounds much easier though. Trying to remember and can't, are there any berries that are native to Australia?

vivatifosi

I should have asked this last night while all the scientists were up and chatting but I was in bed. Something I've been wondering for some time.

It's about drug resistant strains of bacteria. I heard an article hear saying that the meat industry needs to reduce its use of antibiotics in cattle as this is having a knock on effect on drug resistance.

So if someone eats a vegetarian diet and takes care only to take antibiotics when actually needed, does that in anyway help with the drug efficacy on you (in that you as a person are doing your bit) or does the drug resistance come from the infections history before it gets to you. In other words you can have taken v few antibiotics, but the drugs will work the same on you as someone who has taken loads, because it is previous resistance that has mutated the bacteria, rather than the drugs own efficacy on you as an individual. Hopefully I've explained that ok.

LydiaJ

vivatifosi wrote: »

I should have asked this last night while all the scientists were up and chatting but I was in bed. Something I've been wondering for some time.

It's about drug resistant strains of bacteria. I heard an article hear saying that the meat industry needs to reduce its use of antibiotics in cattle as this is having a knock on effect on drug resistance.

So if someone eats a vegetarian diet and takes care only to take antibiotics when actually needed, does that in anyway help with the drug efficacy on you (in that you as a person are doing your bit) or does the drug resistance come from the infections history before it gets to you. In other words you can have taken v few antibiotics, but the drugs will work the same on you as someone who has taken loads, because it is previous resistance that has mutated the bacteria, rather than the drugs own efficacy on you as an individual. Hopefully I've explained that ok.

I'm not a biologist, but my understanding is that once the bacteria are resistant to the drugs, they're resistant to the drugs no matter which patient is infected.

Eating meat from animals that have been given antibiotics gives the meat eater a minimal exposure to the antibiotics, if any at all, anyway.

LNE got a Staphylococcus aureus infection in his heart lining about 18 months before he died. It was a very scary time until the tests came back saying he had got one of the 10% of cases where the bug is sensitive to penicillin, rather than one of the resistant kinds. Even so, they had him in hospital on IV antibiotics for weeks before it was knocked on the head.

Nikkster

vivatifosi wrote: »

I should have asked this last night while all the scientists were up and chatting but I was in bed. Something I've been wondering for some time.

It's about drug resistant strains of bacteria. I heard an article hear saying that the meat industry needs to reduce its use of antibiotics in cattle as this is having a knock on effect on drug resistance.

So if someone eats a vegetarian diet and takes care only to take antibiotics when actually needed, does that in anyway help with the drug efficacy on you (in that you as a person are doing your bit) or does the drug resistance come from the infections history before it gets to you. In other words you can have taken v few antibiotics, but the drugs will work the same on you as someone who has taken loads, because it is previous resistance that has mutated the bacteria, rather than the drugs own efficacy on you as an individual. Hopefully I've explained that ok.

The second as I understand it. As a population our use of antibiotics is driving resistance.

Though at the individual level, that is partially why you should ALWAYS finish a course of antibiotics - even if you're feeling better. You don't want to leave any straggler bacteria behind to get bigger and stronger.

GDB2222

lostinrates wrote: »

Poor GDb and lady GDb had to endure a conversation In the car that went something like

'' that big house there was a I can see your paw on the parcel shelf national trust building but still see the paw, in the boot please, isn't any more. Thank you, but I'm still watching you."

If lady GDb wasn't scared meeting nice people ....:rotfl:

Well, I told lady GDB not to put her hand on the parcel shelf, as it was obviously upsetting you, but she was simply too excited to pay attention, I'm afraid.