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GDB2222

bugslet wrote: »

Mine never really seem to register when one is no longer there. I think Ruby might miss Stella when she goes, they are half-sisters and often sleep cuddled up together.

GDB, it's not unusual to hear of goldfish surviving out of water. from the oracle that is the Daily Mail:

If their gills are wet they can pass oxygen across the membrane of their gills into their bloodstream. 'If the fish isn't exerting itself, it won't need as much oxygen.
'Some types of fish can cope out of water for quite long periods. Goldfish are pretty resilient.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1260549/Goldfish-survives-seven-hours-water-owner-thought-dead.html#ixzz3LfzAmc00

That's really interesting, thanks. I looked, and did not find.

GDB2222

silvercar wrote: »

I agree if you are driving. If you are on public transport, there is less inclination for the powers that [STRIKE]screwed things up in the first place[/STRIKE] be to put on extra trains/ make fast trains stop/ add bus services. Its a pain when you are standing on a cold platform with 200 other people in similar circumstances, its just a much of a pain when you are alone on a platform and left to your own devices.

Though if things are working smoothly, then less fellow travellers makes a more comfortable journey.

If you work in Watford, say, there's a lot to be said for living within walking/cycling distance of your work-place. A Travelcard for zones 1-9 plus Watford is over £80 per week. It really is quite MSE to walk/cycle to work and then buy the odd off-peak fare to visit friends in London.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adult-fares-jan-2014.pdf

If you rent a flat, the normal minimum rental is six months, which is quite a long time if it's in the wrong place. Does the same problem arise if you flat-share?

lostinrates

bugslet wrote: »

Mine never really seem to register when one is no longer there. I think Ruby might miss Stella when she goes, they are half-sisters and often sleep cuddled up together.

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I think different groups or pairs notice differently. We've had a few very noticeably mope.

An at home PTS offers close bonded dogs the opportunity to 'get it' but for practical reasons I wanted biggy dog done at the vets if she was still mobile. Moving the dead weight of a dog that weighs more than fir when you are crying is extremely distressing, and its a fair distance to where we park, and it would be hard to get her to settle at the front of the house because the others would be screaming like banshees. If it were dry its fine because we can park/get a van right up I to the garden.

lostinrates

GDB2222 wrote: »

If you work in Watford, say, there's a lot to be said for living within walking/cycling distance of your work-place. A Travelcard for zones 1-9 plus Watford is over £80 per week. It really is quite MSE to walk/cycle to work and then buy the odd off-peak fare to visit friends in London.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/tube-dlr-lo-adult-fares-jan-2014.pdf

If you rent a flat, the normal minimum rental is six months, which is quite a long time if it's in the wrong place. Does the same problem arise if you flat-share?

I don't think six months is that long really.

I also think comparing kent and clapham to two different areas off London is a different scenario to what I propose Mas consider ( London with a good work commute prioritised over social route) especially as he now clarifies his friends are not all in one location but are mainly n. London.

I also presumed however that he'd be likely to be including flat shares in his search initially at least ( don't overlook social network... for finding somewhere, somewhere where a friend of a friend is about to take off for a year travelling for example.....).

Nikkster

lostinrates wrote: »

I don't think six months is that long really.

I also think comparing kent and clapham to two different areas off London is a different scenario to what I propose Mas consider ( London with a good work commute prioritised over social route) especially as he now clarifies his friends are not all in one location but are mainly n. London.

I also presumed however that he'd be likely to be including flat shares in his search initially at least ( don't overlook social network... for finding somewhere, somewhere where a friend of a friend is about to take off for a year travelling for example.....).

Six months isn't really that long. Especially when everything (e.g. job) is new and shiny and with that special kind of tired when you're getting to know everything and everyone.

When I moved to London I:
- slept on a friend's sofa for a few nights
- moved into somewhere as a lodger (stayed there for 6-7 months)
- moved into a flatshare. Think I might have been a sublet that the letting agent wasn't aware of, but this had been going on for years - 2/3 of the people in the flat had their name on the contract and when one of them moved out, someone else put their name on. Never saw the LA in the 12 months I was there. Managed to dodge getting onto the contract, which was probably very very fortunate

Only the last of those 3 would have been any hassle to leave at the drop of a hat - and then I only needed to find a replacement occupant for my room.

Ah London, the land of hope and opportunity

GDB2222

lostinrates wrote: »

I think different groups or pairs notice differently. We've had a few very noticeably mope.

An at home PTS offers close bonded dogs the opportunity to 'get it' but for practical reasons I wanted biggy dog done at the vets if she was still mobile. Moving the dead weight of a dog that weighs more than fir when you are crying is extremely distressing, and its a fair distance to where we park, and it would be hard to get her to settle at the front of the house because the others would be screaming like banshees. If it were dry its fine because we can park/get a van right up I to the garden.

We had an oven delivered recently, and two brawny men carried it in. It weighs probably a quarter of Big Dog (it's only a single electric oven), but Elfin Safety required two people to carry it.

Surely, you'd have hurt yourself if you had tried to move Big Dog on your own? I'm quite sure you were right to avoid that. It really would not have helped matters if you had 'done your back in'. You absolutely did the right thing, in my very humble opinion.

GDB2222

Nikkster wrote: »

Six months isn't really that long. Especially when everything (e.g. job) is new and shiny and with that special kind of tired when you're getting to know everything and everyone.

When I moved to London I:
- slept on a friend's sofa for a few nights
- moved into somewhere as a lodger (stayed there for 6-7 months)
- moved into a flatshare. Think I might have been a sublet that the letting agent wasn't aware of, but this had been going on for years - 2/3 of the people in the flat had their name on the contract and when one of them moved out, someone else put their name on. Never saw the LA in the 12 months I was there. Managed to dodge getting onto the contract, which was probably very very fortunate

Only the last of those 3 would have been any hassle to leave at the drop of a hat - and then I only needed to find a replacement occupant for my room.

Ah London, the land of hope and opportunity

I agree 100%. Lots to be said for moving in as a lodger for a bit, to get the feel of the area, try out the transport, and see if it's right for you.

chewmylegoff

lostinrates wrote: »

I don't think six months is that long really.

I also think comparing kent and clapham to two different areas off London is a different scenario to what I propose Mas consider ( London with a good work commute prioritised over social route) especially as he now clarifies his friends are not all in one location but are mainly n. London.

I also presumed however that he'd be likely to be including flat shares in his search initially at least ( don't overlook social network... for finding somewhere, somewhere where a friend of a friend is about to take off for a year travelling for example.....).

I was only in zone 4 when in kent- during the day I could get between the two places in well under an hour door to door, but it didn't work once the clock struck 11, unless you liked night buses. If I had my 20s again I would always prioritise weekends personally.

Although uber is a bit of a game changer as you can actually afford a random cab now and then- although no idea if it actually works at 2am!

vivatifosi

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I was only in zone 4 when in kent- during the day I could get between the two places in well under an hour door to door, but it didn't work once the clock struck 11, unless you liked night buses. If I had my 20s again I would always prioritise weekends personally.

Although uber is a bit of a game changer as you can actually afford a random cab now and then- although no idea if it actually works at 2am!

You can get trains out this way until about 1.30am. As of next year you'll be able to get the night tube to Stanmore and then a taxi. I'd often also share a night at an Ibis/Travelodge/Prem Inn with a friend for a night out in central London too. Shared two ways its often cheaper than a taxi.

Nikkster

vivatifosi wrote: »

You can get trains out this way until about 1.30am. As of next year you'll be able to get the night tube to Stanmore and then a taxi. I'd often also share a night at an Ibis/Travelodge/Prem Inn with a friend for a night out in central London too. Shared two ways its often cheaper than a taxi.

I was known to get the night bus. To zone 6 :eek:

Twice I ended up in taxis - once a friend who had rather a lot more money than I paid. The other time I was about £70 out of pocket :eek: :eek:

I think you can get back here leaving London around 3am, which is pretty good really.