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purch

Generali wrote: »

Then cook dinner, play cards/backgammon/read/chat until bed.

You missed out the bit where you drink the 5 bottles of local plonk you bought for EUR 0.97 each :beer:

purch

LydiaJ wrote: »

In Baptist and many other churches, infants are not baptised but dedicated - a service like an infant baptism service, but with no water - and the water bit is exclusively for those who are old enough to decide for themselves, with adult baptism by immersion unless that's not possible. Churches are usually built with a pool (called a baptistry) under the floor that can be filled with warm water for use in baptism services, or emptied and covered over when not in use. Churches that practice infant baptism often also allow this as an alternative for parents who would prefer it, and many C of E churches have been installing baptistries.

We were brought up as part of an Evangelical Brethren chapel in the west country, (not as hardline as Plymouth Brethren) so no hint of a christening. My elder sister was Baptised when she was 13, but when it came to my turn I chose not to.

Generali

purch wrote: »

You missed out the bit where you drink the 5 bottles of local plonk you bought for EUR 0.97 each :beer:

Were you in the next door cottage?

lostinrates

For almost an hour I've been wasting time outside.


I couldn't find where I'd put down my mug in the dark ( for some reason a couple of my most useful flood lights aren't working). And kiwi had decided that nothing on earth was going to stop him getting a rat this morning, nothing at all. Whether or not there was one to catch where he was looking right now.

I'm fAirly sure he was on a wrong steer......I was feeding the other dogs fifteen eggs I'd found in the nest box there.....rats would almost certOnly have found them in the last week I haven't checked ( I thought my girls were off lay , but they obviously think its spring again). Though I'm sure rats HAVE been there recently....I think he's already dealt with them or scared them off.

Then he slipped off and started in one of the barns.......wouldn't even be distracted by an egg, and he LOVES eggs. Maybe he saw something this morning.....


Having found my mug I left it out side on top of the little chicken house,


I pick up new car today. Did I mention courtesy car is going to need a new windshield?

Nikkster

lostinrates wrote: »

Did I mention courtesy car is going to need a new windshield?

No, don't think you did. Oh dear

silvercar

LydiaJ wrote: »

Baptism is the original word and has always been the "official" word. Christening just means baptism - usually of an infant. It's a rather old-fashioned word and now almost never used within churches, or not any of the churches I've been involved with, although still quite common among people who don't hang around churches much and haven't caught up with the change in lingo over the last 50 years or so (and greetings card manufacturers ditto). Baptism is a very ancient idea - dating back before Christ - and used originally to be done in rivers etc. The person would be briefly immersed in the water to symbolise washing away everything wrong they'd done, and then drawing a line under the past and beginning a new life. It is the basic faith commitment ceremony of all major Christian denominations.

In the C of E, Roman Catholic, Methodist and some other churches, infants can be baptised (by sprinkling water on their heads) if their parents and godparents make faith promises on their behalf until they are old enough to make a decision for themselves. When these infants grow up, they have a thing called confirmation where young (or older) people can make faith promises for themselves. For the C of E and RC, confirmation is done by a bishop. Those who have not been baptised as infants can be baptised as adults (either by sprinkling water on the head or by immersion in a pool of water or for some adventurous types in a river or the sea) and may then be confirmed later in the same service.

In Baptist and many other churches, infants are not baptised but dedicated - a service like an infant baptism service, but with no water - and the water bit is exclusively for those who are old enough to decide for themselves, with adult baptism by immersion unless that's not possible. Churches are usually built with a pool (called a baptistry) under the floor that can be filled with warm water for use in baptism services, or emptied and covered over when not in use. Churches that practice infant baptism often also allow this as an alternative for parents who would prefer it, and many C of E churches have been installing baptistries.

When my goddaughter was born, her parents belonged to a C of E church that had a completely open policy of offering either infant baptism or dedication without steering parents in either direction. They chose to get her dedicated. LNE and I, and another couple, were godparents.

Does that help explain things? Do ask any further questions if there's any other aspect of it you'd like to know.

ETA Just thought of a question somebody at work asked me after the last time I said I'd been to a baptism service. Full immersion is done with the people fully clothed, and they go off afterwards to a side room to get changed into dry clothes before coming back to join in the rest of the service. My work friend had wondered if it was done in swimwear or less!

Thanks Lydia that is really interesting. I always thought that a Christening was where babies were given their (christian) name.

Judiasm has a tradition of converts immersing themselves in water as the last part of the conversion process.

We also have the concept of god parents, usually a married but childless couple, in the hope that if anything happened to the natural parents the god parents would take over (either as a slightly older sibling to their children or as solace for not having children of their own.)

Wheezy_2

Sorry to hear about your troubles, Generali. It sure was a poo year for you...2015 can only be better.

Happy belated birthday, Miss Pastures. I had no idea what pressie to get you, so I bought a ball, hope you like it ---> :footie:

Generali

Wheezy wrote: »

Sorry to hear about your troubles, Generali. It sure was a poo year for you...2015 can only be better.

Happy belated birthday, Miss Pastures. I had no idea what pressie to get you, so I bought a ball, hope you like it ---> :footie:

Oh I'm sure 2015 has a kick in the nuts lined up for me. Oh well, at least it provides a little suspense, waiting to see what it is

PasturesNew

Wheezy wrote: »

I had no idea what pressie to get you, so I bought a ball, hope you like it ---> :footie:

Yeah, great. Every girl's top present that ... a ball

ivyleaf

Hopefully Gen it will be a lot better than 2014 was for you!

Spirit i cross-posted with you earlier so missed the bit about your getting your brain back, that's wonderful, hope it stays :j